Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Conopidae from Chile. ID Please
Posted by Roden on 23-11-2016 18:05
#1
I can not identify this fly.
Could you help me?
Edited by Roden on 30-11-2016 23:56
Posted by Zeegers on 23-11-2016 20:06
#2
Always mention locality and date.
Theo
Posted by Roden on 24-11-2016 01:05
#3
Sorry. The image is recent and taken in the Atacama desert coast, northern Chile.
Edited by Roden on 24-11-2016 05:42
Posted by Paul Beuk on 24-11-2016 09:58
#4
I suggest Conopidae
Posted by Roden on 24-11-2016 18:18
#5
Thank you, Paul.
Posted by Gerard Pennards on 24-11-2016 23:44
#6
Change the title to 'Conopidae from Chile', so you'll attract the attention of Jens-Hermann Stuke, he's the Conopidae expert.
Posted by Roden on 25-11-2016 00:04
#7
Thank you, very much, Gerard.
Posted by Roden on 25-11-2016 08:59
#8
Could be Myopa metallica Camras? It is the only Chilean species.
Posted by John Carr on 25-11-2016 16:24
#9
Roden wrote:
Could be Myopa metallica Camras? It is the only Chilean species.
It is similar to the type specimen:
http://collection...ue/3130524. I don't know if the Myopinae of Chile are well enough known to rule out a related undescribed species.
Posted by Roden on 26-11-2016 08:50
#10
In reality they have not been studied John, therefore, it can not be asserted that it is not something new, in a locality 1000 kilometers to the north. However, I understand that there are no more Myopa species registered in the Neotropical region, so it may also be the same, I think.
Thank you.
Posted by jhstuke on 28-11-2016 16:52
#11
In fact Myope metallica is the only species that is known from South America with the exception of three Myopa species that are known from Mexico. There are only the type specimens published of M. metallica so far. I donnot see any reason to doubt that it the fly on the photo is in fact M. metallica and I would propose to publish this interesting record.
Jens-Hermann
Posted by Roden on 29-11-2016 18:32
#12
jhstuke wrote:
I donnot see any reason to doubt that it the fly on the photo is in fact M. metallica and I would propose to publish this interesting record.
Jens-Hermann
Is it possible to publish a new distribution record with photos like this one? Or must there be a specimen collected?
Edited by Roden on 29-11-2016 18:32
Posted by jhstuke on 29-11-2016 18:59
#13
I donnot see any reason not to publish the record with a photo - if there will be a split of Myopa metallica in the future everyone can easily look at the photo and decide whether it can still be identified as metallica or not. I would be more restrained if we would know now several similar species that are difficult to distinguish.
Posted by Roden on 29-11-2016 22:33
#14
Could you suggest where to send the publication?
Posted by jhstuke on 30-11-2016 14:14
#15
No idea - you should choose a journal that prints the photo in colour.
Posted by rvanderweele on 30-11-2016 15:02
#16
May we post it in the conopid group on Facebook? BTW it belongs in the gallery of diptera.info as well. Amazing fly!
Posted by Roden on 30-11-2016 23:40
#17
rvanderweele wrote:
May we post it in the conopid group on Facebook?
Ruud, I send you a email.
Posted by John Carr on 30-11-2017 13:49
#18
This fly is featured in
Barahona-Segovia, Rodrigo M., Rodrigo Castillo Tapia, and Laura Pañinao Monsálvez. 2017. First record of
Myopa metallica Camras, 1992 (Diptera: Conopidae: Myopinae) in northern Chile after 46 years: a case study of the success of citizen science programs.
Journal of Insect Biodiversity 5(13)
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