Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Phaonia mediterranea?
Posted by Miguel Berkemeier on 09-04-2016 18:10
#1
(Costa de Caparica, Portugal - 4/04/2016
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 09-04-2016 20:40
#2
Why not Ph. errans or Ph. valida?
Posted by Rui Andrade on 09-04-2016 22:15
#3
It was me who suggested the possibility of this belonging to the species P. mediterranea, but I told Miguel that I couldn't be sure because it is not possible to see the ventral side of the radial node. So I told Miguel to put the pictures here. I don't know if it is possible to know the species from the pictures. I guess it is more likelly that it belongs to the species you mentioned Nikita, I don't know how rare P. mediterranea is. :)
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 09-04-2016 22:56
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P. mediterranea is less common than Ph. errans or Ph. valida, so we should start with more probable possibilities ;)
Posted by Rui Andrade on 09-04-2016 23:05
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Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
P. mediterranea is less common than Ph. errans or Ph. valida, so we should start with more probable possibilities ;)
Yes, definitely. :)
I was reading about these species and I think this is not P. valida because the female of that species does not have interfrontal bristles and in this pictures they are present, I think (on facebook the pictures are bigger and it is easier to see). Also in P. valida the basal segments of the antennae are yellow, and here they seem to be dark.
Maybe this is P. errans, everything seems to fit well. The flight period also fits better with P. errans.
Posted by Miguel Berkemeier on 10-04-2016 19:17
#6
Ok, thank you both!!!
I'll consider it Phaonia cf. errans ;)
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 10-04-2016 19:43
#7
Phaonia valida (M1+2 slightly bent apically).
Posted by Rui Andrade on 11-04-2016 19:15
#8
Thank you Stephane, I did not read carefully enough and didn't notice that feature! I thought I was seeing interfrontal bristles but maybe they aren't there.