Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Dark R ed Syrphid

Posted by Tony T on 06-06-2007 19:14
#1

31 May 2007 New Brunswick Canada. Length 9mm.

Posted by Gerard Pennards on 06-06-2007 20:29
#2

This is a female of Chalcosyrphus pigra (in Europe it is called C. piger) :D
Greetings

Posted by Kahis on 06-06-2007 20:54
#3

It's a Chalcosyrphus, but I am somewhat surprised if this is the same species we call C. piger. My sole female of the latter species has all-black legs, no black borders on abdomen and no spots around the crossveins. Perhaps our syrphid gurus know better and this is just intraspecific variability.

Posted by Gerard Pennards on 07-06-2007 20:05
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Dear Jere,
Yes, it is the same species, according to Spheight it also occurs in the Nearctic, where it indeed exists under the wrong name Chalcosyrphus pigra! ( Spheight 2006: This species is often mistakenly referred to in recent literature as C.pigra, a mis-spelling not mentioned by Peck (1988).)
I think indeed that the nearctic specimens are a bit different in coloration.
Greetings, Gerard

Edited by Gerard Pennards on 07-06-2007 20:05

Posted by John Smit on 07-06-2007 20:26
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I agree with Kahis, from the looks of it it's a diifferent species, not only are the legs 'the wrong colour' but also the very distinct markings in the wings, can't say I can recall ever having seen such clear markings in the Palearctic specimens, and I have seen quite a few...

John

Posted by Gerard Pennards on 07-06-2007 20:43
#6

Well, you guys might be right, because I forgot the possibility that there could be other Chalcosyrphus species in the nearctic who look like piger (like this one does) but are a bit different.
This is what Chalcosyrphus piger in the nearctic seems to look like:
http://bugguide.net/node/view/26492
And indeed it has a different leg color, but also, in my opinion, very dark wings!
greetings,

Posted by crex on 07-06-2007 20:48
#7

Perhaps C. libo B)

Edit: Ehh, probably not. The face color is different. Perhaps I should just shut up :D

Edited by crex on 07-06-2007 20:53

Posted by Kahis on 07-06-2007 21:04
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crex wrote:
Perhaps C. libo B)

Edit: Ehh, probably not. The face color is different. Perhaps I should just shut up :D


Why the edit? Perhaps you should speak out loud and clear :D C. libo looks like a much better match.

Posted by crex on 07-06-2007 21:32
#9

Kahis wrote:
Why the edit? Perhaps you should speak out loud and clear :D C. libo looks like a much better match.


Perhaps, but libo has light face, Tony's fly is black faced ... and there are 29 species of Chalcosyrphus.