Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Platypezidae => Unpaired... (NW Spain)

Posted by Belen on 12-11-2013 22:11
#1

Platypezidae not uncommon in the forests of this area (Protoclythia spp. males are very visible), but the other day I found a Laurus nobilis full of them, were almost all species together, males and females ... The tree is small, is on the edge of a mixed deciduous forest (Castanea sativa, Laurus nobilis, Quercus robur, Corylus, Betula, Salix, Prunus, Pinus ...), quite humid but always pleasant temperatures (close to the coast). All photos in the same tree for 3 days, the most abundant species were P. modesta and P. rufa.

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Pairs of Protoclythia I think I have well identified (http://www.dipter...d_id=58038), but I have other unpaired males and females ... Is it possible to pair some of them? :D

Platypeza sp.? Male 1 (smaller than Protoclythia male )

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Polyporivora picta Male 2 (more or less the same size as the Protoclythia male)

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Polyporivora cf. picta Male 3= Male 2? (I think)

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Platypeza fasciata Female 1 (smaller than Protoclythia modesta female)

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Lindneromyia hungarica Female 2 (much smaller than Protoclythia modesta female)

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Female 3 = Polyporivora ornata (I suppose)

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Thanks in advance! :)

Edited by Belen on 13-11-2013 21:21

Posted by Menno Reemer on 12-11-2013 22:22
#2

Male 1: ?
Male 2: Polyporivora picta
Male 3: Polyporivora cf. picta
Female 1: Platypeza fasciata
Female 2: Lindneromyia hungarica
Female 3: Polyporivora ornata
Very interesting to see these species are in Spain, did not know they were there (but this may very well be just a matter of ignorance).

Posted by Belen on 12-11-2013 22:35
#3

Thank you again Menno, at the end I had no pairs... I suspected the Polyporivora male, but did not seem the P. ornata male.

Now I have to find a P. picta female, P. fasciata male and L. hungarica male :P

Posted by jeremyr on 13-11-2013 00:05
#4

I think male 1 is a Platypeza

Jeremy

Posted by Paul Beuk on 13-11-2013 08:22
#5

For the sake of clarity: keep different (suspected) species in separate threads. That makes a discussion much better to follow.

Posted by Belen on 13-11-2013 21:20
#6

Thanks Jeremy, maybe it is the male of P. fasciata...

Thanks for the advice Paul, I didn't know if they were related and so I decided to upload them together ...

Posted by jeremyr on 14-11-2013 00:38
#7

Hi Belen,

I noticed that you listed various plant species in your introduction. I assume that you're aware that it is Fungi species not plants that these flies are associated with. So the trees are relevant to the extent that they support Armillaria, Trametes, Agaricus etc

Jeremy

Posted by Belen on 14-11-2013 20:33
#8

Jeremy, thanks for the tip ;), yes I knew (but little else), I included it in the introduction to describe the habitat ... What I found interesting is that in 90% of cases I see adults on leaves of Laurus nobilis (the rest on Castanea sativa and Rubus sp.), feeding on its surface and I don't know the reason ...

Edited by Belen on 14-11-2013 20:34