Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Australian Tachinidae Prosena?

Posted by Graeme Cocks on 22-05-2013 23:13
#1

Could this be a Prosena sp.? Malaise trap. Townsville, Queensland.

Posted by Zeegers on 23-05-2013 13:06
#2

Based on the long proboscis, I assume.

Otherwise, it looks more like a Leskiini or Bithia.
At our side of the planet, Aphria has a similar proboscis.


Theo

Posted by Graeme Cocks on 23-05-2013 21:39
#3

Thanks Theo. There are no Bithia here, so will leave it as Prosena.

Posted by ChrisR on 24-05-2013 12:19
#4

Does it have a plumose arista and central facial ridge?

Posted by Zeegers on 24-05-2013 15:23
#5

So, I took the Herculean task upon me to actually pick up a relevant book (Crosskey 1973).
In all Prosenini, the excavation of syntergite 1&@ reaching the apical margin of that segment. Here, it does not. THere should be 3 pair of apical marginal bristles, here 2 pair. In Prosena, you'd have 1 post IA, here there seem to be 3 but surely 2. So Prosena, it cannot be.
If you follow my guess and suppose Leskiini, it runs pretty nice to Sipholeskia. Only one species from Queensland known: Sipholeskia certima. Originally described in Demoticus, next of kind to Bithia.
It seems this all makes sense.

Theo

Posted by ChrisR on 24-05-2013 18:06
#6

Hmm, yes it fits Leskiini better for me - nice detective work :)

Posted by Graeme Cocks on 25-05-2013 02:53
#7

Theo, do I read 2 for @?
Many thanks for your assistance.
Cheers, Graeme

Posted by Graeme Cocks on 25-05-2013 02:58
#8

I keep running into problems with my requests in that I don't have the flies on hand. They are stored at BOLD. So I've resurrected the malaise trap in the hope I can collect them again.

Posted by Zeegers on 27-05-2013 08:51
#9

Yes, '@' read '2'.

Theo

Posted by Jaakko on 28-05-2013 11:06
#10

Hi Greame

If you have the DNA barcodes, use the identification engine in BOLD. Prosena siberita is in the database as well as several Leskiini. Could give you a rough direction where to look at!

Cheers,

Jaakko

Posted by Graeme Cocks on 30-05-2013 20:41
#11

Unfortunately the DNA failed in this particular species.

Posted by John Carr on 16-10-2015 02:20
#12

Sipholeskia is now considered a synonym of Leskia. Wood's 1987 key to North American Tachinidae synonymized many of Townsend's monotypic genera. The type of Leskia is from Europe and the type of Sipholeskia is from California. Possibly your fly ought to be in a different genus, but probably not in a revived Sipholeskia.

Posted by Graeme Cocks on 16-10-2015 19:41
#13

Thanks John