Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Thereva plebeja?
Posted by piros on 04-02-2013 23:49
#1
Found in Szeged, S. Humgary, on 14.V.2010. Is It a female of Thereva plebeja?
Thanks for any help in advance!
Henrik
Edited by piros on 19-02-2013 21:41
Posted by piros on 04-02-2013 23:49
#2
2.
Posted by piros on 04-02-2013 23:50
#3
3.
Posted by piros on 04-02-2013 23:51
#4
Tip of the abdomen:
Posted by piros on 19-02-2013 21:39
#5
A second chance?
Posted by piros on 02-03-2013 12:53
#6
I would appreciate any suggestion!
Posted by piros on 02-03-2013 22:13
#7
Any suggestion??
Posted by piros on 05-04-2013 15:28
#8
I just noticed that haltera is yellowish brown, so it can't be T. plebeja. It is probably a somewhat unusual/worn specimen of T. nobilitata.
Thanks for your attention!
Henrik
Posted by Zeegers on 24-04-2013 19:52
#9
I disagree
It looks very aberrant, not like any Thereva I have ever seen.
Theo
Posted by piros on 24-04-2013 20:59
#10
:o So, what's your oppinion??? Anything, I mean...:|
Posted by piros on 24-04-2013 21:18
#11
(I mean, thanks!:S)
Posted by Louis Boumans on 24-04-2013 23:55
#12
I have no idea, but just wanted to say these are lovely pictures!
Posted by libor on 25-04-2013 07:11
#13
I agree with Theo. Using Lyneborg & Spitzers' key for the former Czechoslovakia, it runs straight to nobilitata, but true nobilitata looks absolutely different, it is more yellowish species. Maybe any Balcan species, but I have not key on this region.
I download the pictures and send them to Spitzer directly. Maybe he could say more.
Did you collect it?
Libor
Posted by piros on 25-04-2013 11:24
#14
Many thanks to all of you! Unfortunately, I havn't collected it:(, at that time I didn't collect any flies...
Dear Libor, of course, I would appreciate if you forwarded these pics to Spitzer!
Kind regards,
Henrik
Edited by piros on 25-04-2013 14:35
Posted by libor on 29-04-2013 19:13
#15
Reply from Ing. Spitzer: there are three possibilities. (1) Strange T. nobilitata. (2) Very atypical form T. handlirschi. (3) Any other species not known from central Europe yet. He promissed me to try to solve it, but from the pictures only... You know what I did not type :-)
Henrik, I would highly appreciate any material of Rhagionidae and Therevidae from Hungary!
Best wishes
Libor