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Posted by BubikolRamios on 02-05-2012 19:02

This is looks like just rolled out specimen. Should be l.cervi or not ?
What bothers me is that I have adult specimen l.cervi photographed & measured: http://www.agrozo...tena-cervi 3 mm
but this, attached, measures just a bit below 5 mm ! I kind doubt that it shrinks with time (-:

Edited by BubikolRamios on 02-05-2012 19:04

Posted by Mark-uk on 03-05-2012 10:50

Crataerina pallida?

what host was it found on?

Edited by Mark-uk on 03-05-2012 10:51

Posted by BubikolRamios on 03-05-2012 11:04

No host, on house wall, I suppose it came there from near by woods,transfered it there with some woods from forrest in last autumn & this spring. Or mybe from cat, highly unlikely, as , as far as I know then it would not have wings anymore..

Otherwise google images confirms your id.

Thanks.

Edited by BubikolRamios on 03-05-2012 11:09

Posted by BubikolRamios on 03-05-2012 11:20

you mean this: https://www.googl...p;tbm=isch ?

No, as far as I know. But similar, Hirundo sp. is possible & very likely if that is possible.
The thing was climbing up right under it's nest.

Edited by BubikolRamios on 03-05-2012 11:22

Posted by Mark-uk on 03-05-2012 11:55

I will look this up when i get home

did you keep the specimen?

Posted by BubikolRamios on 03-05-2012 19:40

Yes the specimen is in captivity, if I will manage will take photos of bottom side & other details if neccesary.

Posted by Mark-uk on 03-05-2012 22:30

My notes say normally on Swifts (Apus) but also on Matins & Swallows (Hirundo)

I would be surprised if another Crataerina species but view of scutellum would be more useful than underside.

Would be nice to have a specimen if you have more that one?

Mark

Posted by BubikolRamios on 03-05-2012 22:56

Have one only, but you can have it.
Address, packaging instructions,...... ?

Edited by BubikolRamios on 03-05-2012 22:59

Posted by Zeegers on 05-05-2012 17:49

#11

There are two species, one on swifts and one on martins.

Are you aware of that ?

Theo

Posted by Mark-uk on 05-05-2012 19:55

#13

Yes I am - I wrote most of that wiki page :)

Hutton and a few other don't have it so clear cut as only being on the one host. one reason I am keen to see a specimen. Wigns look relatively short on the above why I favoured pallida, but not 100% hence the question mark.

if it is not pallida - or hirundinis (now in Stenepteryx) - there are some other rarer options in Europe.

Mark

Posted by BubikolRamios on 29-10-2019 22:17

#14

moved to Crataerina-hirundinis
http://agrozoo.ne...hirundinis
due to known host relation & local guy says so

Edited by BubikolRamios on 29-10-2019 22:18

Posted by TomiTrilar on 30-10-2019 08:47

#15

There are two genera of Hippoboscidae in Europe with very narrow wings.
Below is a key to separate it:

Wings narrow, slightly sickle-shaped, about 6 times longer than wide (Slika 3). Ocelli poorly developed.
Stenepteryx

Wings broad, leafy, 3 to 4 times as long as wide (Slika 4). Ocelli absent.
Crataerina

Your species is Stenepteryx hirundinis

Best wishes, Tomi (i.e. local guy according to BubikolRamios)