Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tolmerus ? Dysmachus ? or ...
Posted by pat_der2003 on 15-08-2010 08:43
#1
In a wood by a cloudy day, Loire-atlantique, western France, July 14 2010 ; may be 10 or 12 mm ...
is it possible to Id the prey (Muscidae ?)
Posted by pat_der2003 on 15-08-2010 08:44
#2
another view
Posted by Quaedfliegh on 19-08-2010 16:36
#3
Female Paritamus/ Neomochtherus geniculatus. I dont think there are similar species in the area but wait for confirmation.
Edited by Quaedfliegh on 22-07-2011 17:22
Posted by pat_der2003 on 20-08-2010 17:00
#4
Thanks Leptogaster !! :)
i will wait !! ;)
Posted by Quaedfliegh on 31-08-2010 22:00
#5
I hope not too long.......Anybody????:@
Posted by Dysmachus on 12-09-2010 11:18
#6
Yes, it looks very similar to
Neomochtherus geniculatus, but please add
cf.. The genus
Paritamus is already synonymized with
Neomochtherus.
Edited by Dysmachus on 12-09-2010 21:16
Posted by Quaedfliegh on 12-09-2010 16:52
#7
Dysmachus wrote:
The genus Paritamus is already synonymized with Neomochtherus.
This has not changed in the Netherlands same with Tolmerus = Machimus in NL.
Posted by Dysmachus on 12-09-2010 21:27
#8
Sorry, but all of us has to accept the rules of taxonomy and nomenclature, which are international and not restrictred to a country. I don't like several news, synonyms, creations of new genera etc. But we have to use them if they are published. If you think that
Paritamus is valid genus, please explain it in a paper. Nomenclature can not work without this rule - wether I life in Germany and you in the Netherlands. Pavel Lehr and Oscar Theodor separate
Tolmerus and
Machimus on the base of differences in the genitalia. Unfortunately this isn't visible on images.
Paritamus was erected on the colour of the legs - nothing more.
Posted by Quaedfliegh on 13-09-2010 02:47
#9
Your argument is very clear, it is the basis of scientific nomenclature and communication. But it seems that in the Netherlands these differences are not yet accepted or, at least, adapted in literature.
I am not a scientist and it is merely that in all Dutch literature (also on websites etc.)these names are (still)used. It is my startingpoint, my reference. When i'm aware of such differences i will mention both names as in casu.
As mentioned, i'm not a scientist. Where can i find the scietific acknowleged nomenclature list of Asilidae species and a useful key to the European Asilidae?