Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Helina sp (1)
Posted by crex on 19-08-2006 18:42
#1
From today, aprox 65 km NW of Stockholm, Sweden. I will not try to guess family and make a fool of myself ... :) Would be grateful for ID. TIA!
Edit: Changed subject (Grey fly)
Edited by crex on 01-09-2006 22:44
Posted by crex on 19-08-2006 18:43
#2
A view of abdomen.
Posted by Tony Irwin on 20-08-2006 15:32
#3
Muscidae.
Helina female. Possibly
depuncta, but I haven't got access to reference material to check this at the moment. Perhaps Kahis can confirm or reject this? ;)
Posted by Tony Irwin on 20-08-2006 16:18
#5
Hi Susan
Apart from yours being a male, and a bit out of focus (;)), there is a significant difference in that yours has 4 rather than 3 post-sutural dorsocentrals. I'd say it was a muscid and probably Phaoniinae and possibly Helina, but I wouldn't like to say more than that.
Posted by Susan R Walter on 20-08-2006 18:29
#6
Blast and [insert swearword of choice here] :@ - stuff I should remember to do
every time. If Kahis's figures are right and it takes 10K specimens to get to grips with diptera, I calculate it's going to take me about 20 years at my current rate. :(
Thanks Tony - I'll get there eventually, especially with the fab forum's help.B)
Posted by crex on 21-08-2006 06:37
#7
Thank you Tony. Kahis?
Posted by Kahis on 17-11-2006 09:46
#8
Helina, possibly
depuncta is the best I can do.
H. depuncta is usually rather yellowish, but not always.
Posted by crex on 17-11-2006 09:55
#9
Thanx Kahis!