Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Scaeva

Posted by Xaver Frank on 19-07-2006 17:53
#1

Hello!

In Switzerland there sat this fly on a thistle today. Can you help me, please, to identify this Syrphidae? The patterns on its abdomen let me know, that it is genus Scaeva and I heard, that they can identify these Syrphidae on photos by only a good key.

foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/17/2259617/3330663636386431.jpg

Thank you for your help, Xaver

Posted by Sparrow on 19-07-2006 19:01
#2

Mb Scaeva dignota

key:
http://home.hccne...e_key.html

Posted by Gisela Merkel-Wallner on 20-07-2006 15:02
#3

Hello,

for me it looks more like Eupeodes lapponicus

Gisela

Posted by Xaver Frank on 20-07-2006 17:36
#4

Thank you, Gisela!

Can you state the differences between Eupeodes corollae and E. lapponicus for me? Wikipedia User Wofl rather identified this fly as E. corollae...

Greetings ;)

Posted by Kahis on 20-07-2006 20:33
#5

Which shows that while Wikipedia in often useful, any fact in it can be wrong. Real corollae female have yellow spots that reach the edge of tergites (the plates forming the upper surfave of abdomen). The 5th tergite should have yellow edges and the spots are also a bit too narrow for corollae. Many of the photos found by a Google image search appear to be misidentified, but the first two photos on this page has real corollae.

The best character for lapponicus is in the wing venation and it can not be seen in a flying insect.

I'm not a specialist in syrphidae and will not hasard a guess on the real identity of your fly. Could be a Eupeodes nielseni, or a dark E. lundbecki, or a E. lapponicus - or a Dasysyrphus?