Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Nycteribiidae, Bat-fly, Hungary

Posted by pwalter on 09-02-2009 19:10
#1

Hi! This is a dead bat-fly from a cave in B�kk mountains, Hungary. A really interesting family which I1ve never before seen - can someone tell the genus maybe?

Also, doesn't it look like it was parasitised by something? Does this occur?

Found on 7th February, body about 3 mm long.

Edited by pwalter on 07-02-2013 09:50

Posted by Zeegers on 09-02-2009 21:48
#2

Did you collect it ?
I can give you an ID if you send the species.
I have some but little experience, so really need the species.


Theo

Posted by pwalter on 09-02-2009 22:02
#3

Hi! I collected it, but it broke into pieces when I firmly touched it - it must have been dead since a while. Here's another photo. I'll look for alive specimens next time! Do You think it could be parasitised? I mean the hole on the middle of the body.

Posted by Nosferatumyia on 09-02-2009 22:39
#4

I think the hole could be caused by the pubarium birth.

Posted by pwalter on 10-02-2009 23:37
#5

Here's one more from what's left from the specimen:

EDIT: A wrong pic was here, changed.

Edited by pwalter on 12-02-2009 00:13

Posted by Zeegers on 11-02-2009 20:56
#6

It is not paratized, the hole is the spot were the head is lying in rest.

Yes, these are weirdos.


Theo

Posted by Jaakko on 12-02-2009 13:00
#7

Hi,

Looks awfully like Penicillidia. To my knowledge, there are only three other genuses in Northern Europe Nycteribia, which are eyeless, minute and louse-like, Basilia, which have curious big eyes with double-lenses and Phthiridium, which I don't have a clue about...

Penicillidia monoceros is the most common one nycteribiid here in Finland, based on my little experience. See the images in the gallery, bit poor quality since I don't have proper equipment (pocket camera and microscope). As the name suggest, this species has a "horn" on the head, which I can't see in your specimen, although it might be broken.

Jaakko

Edited by Jaakko on 12-02-2009 13:02

Posted by Zeegers on 12-02-2009 17:24
#8

There might be a misunderstanding here.
The fact that the ocellus is doublelensed in Basilia, does not make the eye big. In fact, I had very much trouble finding the eye in Basilia nana.

Theo