Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tephretidae?
Posted by Josef Buecker on 08-10-2008 14:49
#1
Hello Forum,
what is the ID of this fly? Hagen, NRW, Germany, alder marshland, 175msm, October 7th 2008
Best wishes, Josef
Posted by Andrzej on 08-10-2008 15:25
#2
look like Palloptera usta for me but obviously Pallopteridae member but you should wait for Jan answer :)
Andrzej
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 08-10-2008 16:18
#3
Palloptera ustulata not Palloptera usta. :)
Posted by Andrzej on 08-10-2008 17:40
#4
I'm not sure but Jorges ID is not correct for me. According to the picture gallery and the Key to the Europaean Russian part the crossveins by P. ustulata are not tinged nor dusted :)
Andrzej
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 08-10-2008 19:31
#5
Andrzej wrote:
I'm not sure but Jorges ID is not correct for me. According to the picture gallery and the Key to the Europaean Russian part the crossveins by P. ustulata are not tinged nor dusted :)
Andrzej
hmm.. Andrzej, I was fixing... not IDing. :) it is not certainly ustulata. But I WAS WRONG. There is really a P. usta. :| Errare humanum est.
Posted by Jan Willem on 09-10-2008 09:26
#6
I agree with Andrzej.
Posted by Andrey Ozerov on 04-03-2009 19:58
#7
I think it is Toxoneura venusta (Loew)
Posted by viktor j nilsson on 01-11-2009 20:21
#8
From Bei-Bienko:
Posterior half of frons with snow white coating, Mesonotum brownish yellow. Wings with dark spot on subcostal cell, broad brown border in apical half of wing [...] and similar broad border on posterior crossvein.... Palloptera venusta.
Hence, I think Andrey Ozerov is right to think this is Toxoneura (or, Palloptera) venusta.
On a side note: this once again makes me think that one almost never should trust the keys in Bei-Bienko when it comes to describing the colour of the thorax, I guess different colours of brown is notoriously hard to translate from russian into english?
Posted by Nosferatumyia on 01-11-2009 21:19
#9
I think the expertize of Andrey is more than enough.
Toxoneura venusta.