Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Muscidae -> male Phaonia tuguriorum
Posted by Marion Friedrich on 28-08-2026 20:05
#1
Hi,
is it possible to identify this fly? Mydaea?
Greetings Marion
Germany, Saxony, between meadow and forest, May 2026
Edited by Marion Friedrich on 13-09-2026 17:13
Posted by eklans on 29-08-2026 17:23
#2
I think it could be a male
Helina sexmaculata - tricky from only one dorsal photo.
Posted by Marion Friedrich on 30-08-2026 20:26
#3
Hi Eric,
thank you very much for answer. Unfortunately, the fly got impatient and flew away after the first picture.
I compared my photo with the pictures in the gallery and internet. In my opinion the distance between eyes of my fly is shorter, but I don't know if that's relevant for the determination.
Greetings,
Marion
Posted by nielsyese on 30-08-2026 20:45
#4
Maybe Phaonia tuguriorum.
Posted by jck on 31-08-2026 08:17
#5
Helina has bare eyes, doesn't it?
James
Posted by Marion Friedrich on 31-08-2026 09:54
#6
Thank you very much Nils-Jan and James.
I attach a cropped section of the mirrored full-resolution image. The eyes are hairy.
Greetings, Marion
Edited by Marion Friedrich on 31-08-2026 10:04
Posted by eklans on 01-09-2026 16:45
#7
Helina sp. do not have naked eyes per se: e.g. H. evecta: "eyes densely haired in both sexes" from Gregor, Rozkošný, Barták, Vaňhara (2016): Manual CE Muscidae
On P. tuguriorum: are the basal segments of the antenna reddish yellow?
And a black mid-line between the fronto-orbital plates should be visible.
Posted by Marion Friedrich on 01-09-2026 19:47
#8
Thank you very much, Eric.
On P. tuguriorum: are the basal segments of the antenna reddish yellow?
I would say they are reddish.
And a black mid-line between the fronto-orbital plates should be visible.
Probably not.
Greetings, Marion
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 13-09-2026 03:08
#9
I vote for P. tuguriorum
Posted by Marion Friedrich on 13-09-2026 17:10
#10
Thank you very much, Nikita.
Now there are most votes for
Phaonia tuguriorum!
Greetings, Marion