Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Rhagio Pyrenees > Rhagio grandis Szilady, 1934

Posted by Luc Elshout on 12-03-2023 13:19
#1

Is this Rhagio tringarius? I know it from Northwest Europe but don't know spanish species.
2022-07-31 Queralbs (ES) Elevation ca. 2100m

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Edited by Luc Elshout on 12-03-2023 20:22

Posted by Zeegers on 12-03-2023 14:23
#2

Hi Luc,

Probably a very exciting species. Could you please make a pic if the wing ?

Theo

Posted by Zeegers on 12-03-2023 14:24
#3

and a frontal of the head ?

Posted by Luc Elshout on 12-03-2023 14:50
#4

Hello Theo,
Thank you for your reaction.
Yes, I have these pictures:

observation.org/media/photo/63136346.jpg
observation.org/media/photo/63136348.jpg

Posted by Zeegers on 12-03-2023 19:51
#5

Thanks..
It is Rhagio grandis, a forgotten species or the eastern Pyrenees.
The type is lost (Budapest, 1956). This specimen might serve as neotype (to be published), that is, if you are willing to donate it to Naturalis.

Great find !

Theo

Posted by Luc Elshout on 12-03-2023 20:17
#6

Wow! That's great! Thank you for the identification Theo. Good that I wanted to have it checked.
Of course that is all right. I will see if I come by soon, otherwise I can give it with somebody or send it by post, but that is maybe a bit tricky.

Posted by Zeegers on 12-03-2023 20:20
#7

Great, thank you.

Maybe Saturday Burger’s Bush EISdag ?
Otherwise, another time.

let’s switch to PM to exchange email adreesses.

Theo

Theo

Posted by libor on 13-03-2023 11:36
#8

Theo, and Rhagio "tringarius" from Portugal is true tringarius?
Libor

Posted by Zeegers on 13-03-2023 12:17
#9

I guess so.

Rh. grandis is, so far, restricted to eastern Pyrenees and one mountain in Asturias.

Theo

Posted by Zeegers on 13-03-2023 12:52
#10

I just had a quick glance on biodiversidadvirtual portal and yes, most, if not all, “tringarius” from Spain are indeed just that .., tringarius.

Theo

Posted by libor on 13-03-2023 16:10
#11

Thanks for your reply. I will keep my three Portugese tringarius under that name,
Libor