Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Pseudheleodromia(Igor Shamshev); SW Spain

Posted by Andre Burgers on 29-04-2022 15:49
#1

Old photos, February 2021. Looks like Dolichopodidae to me, but that proboscis is very strange for this family.
So, no idea. :S


¡Saludos!

Edited by Andre Burgers on 10-07-2022 16:27

Posted by Andre Burgers on 29-04-2022 15:50
#2

2nd photo:

Posted by Andre Burgers on 29-04-2022 15:50
#3

3rd:

Posted by John Carr on 29-04-2022 18:32
#4

Clinocerinae or Brachystomatidae.

Posted by Andre Burgers on 30-04-2022 11:21
#5

Thanks, John. |t

From a strange Dolichpodidae to a strange Empididae. :D
I will look into these sub-families.

¡Saludos!

Posted by Paul Beuk on 03-05-2022 19:59
#6

Dolichocephala

Posted by Tony Irwin on 03-05-2022 21:11
#7

Don't think it's Dolichocephala - the head is attached in the wrong place (almost at the vertex in Dolichocephala). Having said that, trying to resolve the large mouthparts with the wing venation and leg morphology leaves me a bit puzzled...:|

Posted by Andre Burgers on 04-05-2022 07:59
#8

So, an interesting fly! :) And maybe now I am saying something very stupid, but could it be a Clinocera species?:
https://www.biodiversidadvirtual.org/insectarium/Genus-Clinocera-cat27191.html


Thanks, the three of you, for your time and expertise. |t


¡Saludos!

Edited by Andre Burgers on 04-05-2022 08:23

Posted by igor on 22-05-2022 20:45
#9

Heleodromia

Best wishes,

Igor

Posted by Jan Willem on 23-05-2022 07:19
#10

Heleodromia doesn't seem to fit either.
Clinocera seems to fit better. But let's wait for the experts.

Posted by igor on 23-05-2022 20:14
#11

This fly belongs to Brachystomatidae, not Clinocerinae of Empididae.
More precisely:
Pseudheleodromia Wagner, with single described species (P. helvetica) from Switzerland. Pseudheleodromia is identical with Heleodromia, except forked R4+5.

Best wishes,

Igor Shamshev

Posted by Andre Burgers on 10-07-2022 16:16
#12

Missed your post, Igor! Sorry!

Very interesting group. Thanks to everybody for this very interesting discussion.!! |t


¡Saludos! :)

Edited by Andre Burgers on 10-07-2022 16:53