Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tachinidae identification/ Smidtia conspersa

Posted by GAREL Jean-Michel on 26-04-2022 11:37
#1

Hi,
this Tachinidae was observed on april 14th in the north of Yonne department (France). Could it be a Phorocera assimilis ? Thanks for your expertise.
www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos300/big/Tach6%201404.jpg
Jean-Michel GAREL : France : Brannay : 89150 : 14/04/2022
Altitude : NR - Taille : 6 environ
Réf. : 300666

Edited by GAREL Jean-Michel on 28-04-2022 11:01

Posted by eklans on 26-04-2022 15:41
#2

Hello Jean-Michel, I'm pretty sure, you are right with P. assimilis and it's a male

Posted by GAREL Jean-Michel on 26-04-2022 16:10
#3

Thanks Eric for your confirmation.
With my best wishes, Jean-Michel Garel.

Posted by Zeegers on 26-04-2022 20:50
#4

General jizz is more like Smidta conspersa (to me): more red on scutellum, shorter and bulkier third antennal segment, prae-alar seems strong (though, agreed, out of focus) and no obvious fold to bend of vein m )(idem)


Theo

Edited by Zeegers on 27-04-2022 07:33

Posted by eklans on 26-04-2022 21:08
#5

Thank you once again, Theo! I was in doubt - mainly because of the very red scutellum, the 3 dark stripes near the pre ac... But the Smidtia conspersa didn't come to my mind. Sorry Jean-Michel!

Posted by Zeegers on 27-04-2022 07:35
#6

The exclusively white hairs on backside of head (behind occipital row) is relatively rare in Goniini/eryciini and hence a good clue.

Theo

Posted by eklans on 27-04-2022 11:41
#7

Here's a male Smidtia conspersa (distinct characters marked) + Phorocera assimilis from my garden.
(we can also see the bronze lustre of the Smidtia)

Edited by eklans on 27-04-2022 11:43

Posted by GAREL Jean-Michel on 28-04-2022 11:03
#8

All my thanks for your expertise Theo Zeegers.
Greetings, Jean-Michel Garel.

Posted by Zeegers on 28-04-2022 14:30
#9

Eklans pics very nicely show the more elongated abdomen, so characteristic for Phorocera and Exorista, but difficult to describe.

You need a carpenter’s eye, as we say in Dutch.


Theo