Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tachina? Unsure, from southern France=> Tachina cf praeceps

Posted by clovis on 13-02-2022 16:06
#1

Dear all,

I collected this female at the entrance of the Verdon canyon. It gives me little difficulty.

Following keys (central european key to genus, Ceretti to species) I find T praeceps, as sintergite 1+2 has white pilosity. But abdominal pattern doesn't look like picture I find on internet for this species.
So, is it an not represented pattern or did I go wrong on something?
Abdominal pattern look more like Nowickia's, but tibiae are definitly red.


www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos298/big/IMG_5674.JPG
clovis : France : Moustiers-Sainte-Marie : 04360 : 20/05/2021
Altitude : 489 m - Taille : 11mm
Réf. : 298159

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos298/big/IMG_5684.JPG
clovis : France : Moustiers-Sainte-Marie : 04360 : 20/05/2021
Altitude : 489 m - Taille : 11mm
Réf. : 298160

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos298/big/IMG_5703.JPG
clovis : France : Moustiers-Sainte-Marie : 04360 : 20/05/2021
Altitude : 489 m - Taille : 11mm
Réf. : 298164

Edited by clovis on 21-02-2022 22:45

Posted by Zeegers on 13-02-2022 18:45
#2

So, is it female .
Is the wing uniformily brownish by any chance ?

Theo

Posted by clovis on 14-02-2022 09:42
#3

Nope, wings are not really brownish, only nervation on distal half of the wing (basal part is yellowish)

Posted by clovis on 20-02-2022 21:25
#4

So not possible to id for a female I guess? Is genera right?

Posted by Zeegers on 21-02-2022 08:14
#5

It is definitely Tachina, I am just not sure if it is praeceps.


Theo

Posted by clovis on 21-02-2022 12:51
#6

Nice many thanks!
I'll stay on cf then?
Could other pictures help?

Posted by Zeegers on 21-02-2022 14:37
#7

More pics won’t help. The oics are fine, the specimen is aberrant :)

If first sternite really has white hairs, it should be praeceps.
But no female praeceps in my collection come close to this one.

Theo

Posted by clovis on 21-02-2022 22:49
#8

I have no doubts on color of first sternite: 100% white acepte 2 small apical setules.
I'll stay on this species with little doubts, and hope to find normal specimens!
Many thanks for you helpfull opinion!!!! :D