Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Dasineura rosae Gall inhabitants?

Posted by Jim Senn on 27-01-2022 16:40
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Badem, RLP, Germany; 03 Jul 2021; I collected several Dasineura rosae Galls near my house & later collected more. Dasineura rosae Midge larve are the yellow larve. Other larve reported in D. rosae galls are: inquilines; Macrolabis lucenti (white larve), & M. alatauensis (also presumed white larve) Midges. parasites; Lestodiplosis rosarum larve Midges. Can somebody help ID these? (No Midge images survived but 4 species of wasp, a louse, a thripse, & a caterpillar did. I"ll try again next year.)

Posted by Jim Senn on 27-01-2022 16:45
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Second photo. 2 D. Rosae larve. 1 inquiline larva (which doesn't look like Macrolabis luceti or M. alatauensis larve seen in first photo)? 1 parasitic larva?

Posted by Jim Senn on 27-01-2022 16:48
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Third photo. D. rosae larva & a parasitic larva -- I persume this may be a parasitic wasp larva.

Posted by Jim Senn on 27-01-2022 16:49
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Fourth photo. D. rosae Gall for reference.

Posted by John v on 31-01-2022 22:08
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Hi Jim,
I've attached a version of your second photo with markup I added. Two cecidomyiid larvae, one Hymenoptera larva, and a second probable Hymenoptera larva. The clearly defined head of the larger wasp larva is visible (circled) and its opposing mandibles are just barely noticeable as a dark smudge on the head.
--John van der Linden

Edited by John v on 31-01-2022 22:10

Posted by Jim Senn on 04-02-2022 14:00
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Thanks for your help & for taking the time & effort needed for this answer.

Edited by Jim Senn on 04-02-2022 14:04