Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Cylindromyia intermedia? --> C. brassicaria f

Posted by Jann Wuebbenhorst on 14-01-2022 20:06
#1

I found this Cylindromyia on 19th June 2021 on nutrient-poor grassland in the very east of Niedersachsen (Germany), Landkreis Lüneburg.
I tried to identify it using the key of Tschorsnig & Herting (2005). But as a tachinid beginner, I find it difficult to identify all the bristles and other features mentioned in the key.
Jann

Edited by Jann Wuebbenhorst on 15-01-2022 16:47

Posted by Jann Wuebbenhorst on 14-01-2022 20:07
#2

Here are my suggestions:
1. hind tibia with pv-bristles

Posted by Jann Wuebbenhorst on 14-01-2022 20:09
#3

2. crossed apical scutellar bristles present

Posted by Jann Wuebbenhorst on 14-01-2022 20:11
#4

3. Abdomen without discal bristles

Posted by Jann Wuebbenhorst on 14-01-2022 20:12
#5

4. Third antennal segment quite long

Edited by Jann Wuebbenhorst on 14-01-2022 20:12

Posted by Jann Wuebbenhorst on 14-01-2022 20:13
#6

5. I'm unsure about the bristles on the middle tibia

Posted by Zeegers on 15-01-2022 10:55
#7

Yes, difficult genus. Antenne is longer and more orange in intermedia. If a basal scutellar bristle is present, intermedia is highly unlikely.
So this is a small female brassicaria.

Theo

Posted by Jann Wuebbenhorst on 15-01-2022 13:16
#8

Thank you again, Theo!
So there's a problem already in the first step of the key, where I decided for 1b (hind tibia with pv -bristles).
Am I wrong with the bristles (as shown in fig. 163 in Tschorsnig & Herting)? Or is this feature not always valid?

Jann

Edited by Jann Wuebbenhorst on 15-01-2022 16:46

Posted by Zeegers on 15-01-2022 14:05
#9

??

P. = posterior, so backside

pd can never be in front of ad.


Theo

Posted by Jann Wuebbenhorst on 15-01-2022 16:46
#10

Yes, of course it is the other way round!
I didn't realize that fig. 163 in Tschorsnig & Herting shows the LEFT hind tibia, my photo shows the RIGHT hind tibia - sorry.

Edited by Jann Wuebbenhorst on 16-01-2022 12:04

Posted by Zeegers on 15-01-2022 17:20
#11

You song again "Upside down you turn me"?


Theo

Posted by Jann Wuebbenhorst on 16-01-2022 12:06
#12

O.k., I think now I've got it.
pv bristles missing.

Jann

Posted by Zeegers on 16-01-2022 12:39
#13

It is very easy to make these kind of mistakes from pictures. Glad you got it.

Theo