Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Two different Cylindromyias (Tachinidae)? (14.09.21) --> C. brassicaria group

Posted by Juergen Peters on 15-09-2021 20:34
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Hello,

two years ago I had my first encounter with the genus Cylindromyia here (northwest Germany), two individuals in about 2 weeks. They were identified by Theo Zeegers as Cylindromyia brassicaria.

Yesterday I found the genus again on camomile flowers next to a path between acres. Length about 10 mm.
It was conspicuous, that one individual had a continuous stripe on its abdomen, the other not. Different species, a gender difference or simple variation?

Here also a little video of one of the flies cleaning its legs:
https://insektenf...utzend.mp4

Edited by Juergen Peters on 15-09-2021 23:11

Posted by Juergen Peters on 15-09-2021 20:35
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Pic #2

Posted by Juergen Peters on 15-09-2021 20:35
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Pic #3 (other individual)

Edited by Juergen Peters on 15-09-2021 20:36

Posted by Juergen Peters on 15-09-2021 20:36
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Pic #4

Posted by Juergen Peters on 15-09-2021 20:37
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Pic #5

Posted by eklans on 15-09-2021 20:51
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Hallo J├╝rgen, the other one - with continuous stripe - has no discals: C. Pusilla?

Posted by Juergen Peters on 15-09-2021 20:57
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eklans wrote:
the other one - with continuous stripe - has no discals: C. Pusilla?


Thanks, Eric.

Posted by Zeegers on 15-09-2021 22:06
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Both have basal scutellar bristles so both are males in the brassicaria group. Much too vig for pusilla.

Theo

Posted by Juergen Peters on 15-09-2021 23:10
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Thanks, Theo!

Zeegers wrote:
Much too big for pusilla.


the second one may have been a little bit smaller, but not strikingly.

Edited by Juergen Peters on 16-09-2021 18:41

Posted by Zeegers on 16-09-2021 08:28
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Still, the wing venation and the arista contradicts pusilla.


Theo