Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Therevidae?

Posted by Aiwok on 08-08-2021 16:27
#1

Hi,
I found this beuatiful fly close to a small brook. In the outskirts of Hamburg. There are also some rather sandy grasslands and some hedge rows and Alder trees close to the creek. (30.7.2021).
It looks like Therevidae to me. Is it possible to identify this species?
Regards, Jan

Posted by Aiwok on 15-08-2021 00:07
#2

Hi, I did some research on my own, and I think this might be Cliorismia rustica. Can this be confirmed?
Regards, Jan

Posted by Xespok on 15-08-2021 06:48
#3

I think Cliorismia female is correct. I think this is C. ardea rather than rustica, but I could be wrong.

Posted by Aiwok on 16-08-2021 18:10
#4

Thanks Xespok! I wasn't aware of this similar species, so I looked for some regional checklists and found one for lower saxony, which is reasonably close to Hamburg. It seems There are just Cliorismia rustica found there with one mentioning of C. ardea from 1931 which is thought to be due to the fact that the two species hadn't been distinguished by the author. The only key feature to distinguish the two, I found so far (quick search) is for males only. Overall the species seems to be rare. There are also just few records of C. rustica in this region. I'll keep it as C. rustica with a mark for possibility of C. ardea.
Regards,
Jan