Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Black Chloropidae (?) - ID? --> something like Lipara rufitarsis
Posted by kuv on 03-02-2021 17:19
#1
Northern Germany, Schleswig-Holstein, Neu-Lankau near Mölln, right by the
Elbe-Lübeck-Canel, meadow packed up with sawn timber for open fire; Outsidephotos kuv, 2nd of July 2019. Please help to get the ID.
Kuv
Edited by kuv on 05-02-2021 13:18
Posted by kuv on 03-02-2021 17:20
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2nd picture:
Posted by kuv on 03-02-2021 17:20
#3
3rd picture:
Posted by kuv on 03-02-2021 17:21
#4
4th picture:
Posted by Juergen Peters on 03-02-2021 19:08
#5
Hi,
I think,
Madiza glabra (Milichiidae).
Posted by kuv on 03-02-2021 19:49
#6
Thank you very much Jürgen :).
Greetings Kuv
Posted by Ectemnius on 04-02-2021 13:09
#7
Hi kuv & Jürgen,
I disagree and think kuv has the right family: Chloropidae.
If you measure from wing base to vein R2+3 and where vein R1 ends in the costa relative to that. Vein R1 ends at about halfway in the costa here. It ends about 1/3 in Madiza sp. The distance between vein R1 and the costa, where they are parralel in the wing, are far wider here than in Madiza. The profile of the head, laterally is also different. Here the back of the head is straight, in Madiza the gena cut forward about halfway. And Madiza are either shining black or grey pollinose, this fly is matt black.
Kind regards,
Ectemnius
Posted by Tony Irwin on 04-02-2021 14:25
#8
Lipara rufitarsis?
Posted by Paul Beuk on 05-02-2021 09:10
#9
Something like that, yes.
Posted by kuv on 05-02-2021 13:17
#10
Thank you Ectemnius :), thank you Tony :) and thank you Paul :).
So the result is "something like Lipara rufitarsis (Chloropidae)".
Greetings Kuv