Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Empididae - Empis sp. (female)
Posted by Liliane D on 09-05-2020 19:18
#1
Hello,
May 09, 2020 in the south of France.
Between 4.5 and 5 mm in total length, to the tip of the wings.
I think
Hilara for the shape of the antennae and for the thin blackened spot on the outer edge of the wing.
If it is
Hilara, can we go to the species?
Thank you for your help.
Edited by Liliane D on 12-05-2020 15:11
Posted by Liliane D on 09-05-2020 19:29
#2
If necessary, for the colour of the abdomen
Posted by John Carr on 09-05-2020 19:46
#3
Empis.
Hilara has a short proboscis; the length in
Empis and
Rhamphomyia is variable.
Posted by Liliane D on 09-05-2020 19:59
#4
Thank you very much, John,
Yes, I hadn't paid attention to the proboscis.
So there are Empis that have antennas like these and a thin blackened spot stretched out on the wing?
Posted by Liliane D on 12-05-2020 13:55
#5
Is it possible to determine the species from the antennae and spotted wings? Or should we stay on Empis sp.?
Posted by Paul Beuk on 12-05-2020 14:38
#6
The pterostigma is present in many species and hardly diagnostic, sorry. Identifying southern French females of
Empis s.str. from will always be a challenge (and one we will most often loose).
Posted by Liliane D on 12-05-2020 15:15
#7
Thank you very much, Paul,
I was just trying, but I'm well aware of the challenge.