Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Two Phoridae

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 06-11-2005 15:18
#1

05 nov, Moscow, park, fallen leaf and dead wood, semi-freez - semi-active, 1-1,5mm.
Even if ID isn't possible, please, is it same species or two different?

www.diptera.info/forim/5-0949-1.jpg
www.diptera.info/forim/5-0949-2.jpg

Posted by Andre on 06-11-2005 16:29
#2

Looking at sexe (females), dustings of abdomen, color of fore-legs... I would call them different species.
Maybe the first picture may be the easiest to determine by a specialist (like Disney, or maybe by Paul?).
Anyone else who would like to grow to be a Phoridae-specialist?? :)

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 06-11-2005 16:34
#3

Hi Andre.
You forgot Kahis, good specialist for "hopeless families".

Posted by Andre on 06-11-2005 16:44
#4

Ah, yeah, quit right! :o

Posted by Kahis on 06-11-2005 23:37
#5

Hehe, more like hopeless specialist for good families;)

Sorry, cannot really help with these. Different species (note also color of palpi/proboscis), but which ones is probably impossible to say.

I did once write to prof. Disney and asked if he could confirm the identiify of a phorid new for Finland. He was very kind and did what I asked - as far as it is possible from a good photo. But he also said that he is very busy and he receives much more ID requests than he can handle so if the material isn't reared or obviously a new species, please ask somebody else. Sounds like a reasonable policy to me. :|

Cheers,
Kahis

Posted by Andre on 07-11-2005 00:16
#6

That's a fair policy indeed.
Even better would be, to 'breed' some more Phorid-specialists around here... Kahis.... ;)
Guess Disney would be happy to support? haha
(don't feel pressed now ;) please )

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 07-11-2005 12:08
#7

Thank you Jere and Andre.
Bieng "old Dipterologist" you forget how important is to know that this fly is Phorida. I remember, as Jere explain me what is Phorida only 2 month ago. So I think that even available kit of 10 unknown Phoridae sp. is realy usefull for any newcomer in Dipterology.

Posted by Andre on 07-11-2005 12:16
#8

I am glad you put "old" between inverted comma's. ;)
Having a referencecollection can be very usefull indeed... Do you also collect them, or only take pictures?

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 07-11-2005 13:22
#9

I'm on the way to begin collected:)

Posted by Kahis on 07-11-2005 15:16
#10

Andre wrote:
I am glad you put "old" between inverted comma's. ;)


But I feel sooooo ***old*** - surely turning 30:o marks the end of my useful lifetime.;););)
I can feel my brain cells queueing for apoptosis.:(

Sorry about the superabundance of smileys. Perhaps I'm not feeling that old after allB):);):o:D

Playfully Yours,
Jere

Posted by Andre on 07-11-2005 16:41
#11

The reason why the suicide-rate in Finland is so high, does not apply to our dearest Jere? Very good, keep the spirit(s) up! :D

Posted by Kahis on 07-11-2005 22:29
#12

Andre wrote:
The reason why the suicide-rate in Finland is so high, does not apply to our dearest Jere? Very good, keep the spirit(s) up! :D


Uh oh yeah, the Finnish suicide rate. I promise I'll do my best to keep it from rising yet higher:o It's a good think I'm an ugly bugger and thus have no problem with womankind:D, 'cause the ladies are what drives many men to suicide. Some people seem to think Romeo & Juliet is a DIY (do it yourself) guidebook :(

Spirits of the bottle-stored kind have nothing to do with my previous posts. Scary as it is, that's what I'm like when sober:o. Which is pretty much all the time, never seen to point of being drunk. A glass of wine with good Italian food (like tonight) or a post-sauna beer is about the maximum for me.

OK, I'd better stop here, we may already have slipped slightly off-topic.

Cheers,
Kahis (who's feeling a bit tipsy after a perfect dinner and defenitely shouldn't be posting messages on any board)

Edited by Kahis on 08-11-2005 10:29

Posted by Andre on 08-11-2005 00:29
#13

The ladies? I thought the booze.
Well, if it's the ladies, one can always turn to the men (for women: visa versa). But you're right, we are slightly (but just slightly) getting off-topic... :D
Long live the tipsy people! Where's MY booze now..............?
Ah!.. There it is....
;)

Edited by Andre on 08-11-2005 00:30

Posted by Mario Langourov on 30-06-2006 09:38
#14

This is Megaselia berndseni: first picture - female, second - male; short costa, yellow halteres...:D

Edited by Mario Langourov on 30-06-2006 09:50

Posted by Kahis on 30-06-2006 10:02
#15

:D:D

Wait, you ARE joking, aren't you?:o

Posted by Jan Willem on 30-06-2006 10:06
#16

Jere wrote:
Wait, you ARE joking, aren't you?



That was exactly what I wanted to ask!

Jan Willem

Edited by Jan Willem on 30-06-2006 10:07

Posted by Mario Langourov on 30-06-2006 10:51
#17

No, I'm serious - for the male I'm sure! It's very characteristic.;)

Posted by Kahis on 30-06-2006 10:58
#18

Impressive.

I am more than happy to shed my "phorid expert" coat and give it to someone who actually knows the family.

Posted by Mario Langourov on 30-06-2006 19:07
#19

I'll be very glad to check any Phoridae materials.:D

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 30-06-2006 19:55
#20

Thank you Mario, very unpredictable ID.
I'll be very glad to send you soon a lot of material.
Nikita

Posted by Jan Willem on 01-07-2006 10:15
#21

Hi Mario,

It is good to have an expert on phorids active in the forum! As you will see, identifications of phorids are regularly asked!

Jan Willem

Posted by Mario Langourov on 01-07-2006 10:37
#22

Hi!

I hope to be helpful in this matter:D