Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Heleomyzidae; Scoliocentra dupliciseta ID'd by Andrzej

Posted by Roger Thomason on 10-03-2020 14:59
#1

Found this one beside the Burn of Valayre, Shetland, in June 2018. Possible to give a species from these photos ?

Edited by Roger Thomason on 18-03-2020 12:37

Posted by Roger Thomason on 10-03-2020 15:02
#2

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Posted by Ectemnius on 10-03-2020 18:46
#3

Hi Roger,

Looks a lot like Schroederella iners. Also here on diptera.info: https://diptera.i...pid=157849

Kind regards,

Ectemnius

Posted by Andrzej on 11-03-2020 00:07
#4

not Schroederella but interesting...

BTW
Dear Ectemnius,
as I see, you are really an expert in Heleomyzid species identification ...

Edited by Andrzej on 11-03-2020 00:08

Posted by Ectemnius on 11-03-2020 07:42
#5

Hello Andrzej,

Andrzej wrote:
BTW
Dear Ectemnius,
as I see, you are really an expert in Heleomyzid species identification ...


Never claimed to be, and that is why I said: 'looks like'. But I'm trying to learn. I hope to learn from you, as you are one of the few family experts with a long list of publications who responds regularly here on diptera.info.

Andrzej wrote:
not Schroederella but interesting...


And to be able to learn, could you please say why it is not Schroederella?

Kind regards,

Ectemnius

Posted by Andrzej on 11-03-2020 08:42
#6

The two vibrissae and other characters, e.g. concerning the first flagellomere exclude the genus Schroederella and the Schr. iners, the only one European species known to me...

Posted by Roger Thomason on 13-03-2020 21:29
#7

Thanks Ectemius for the suggested ID, can't be right every time.. I know more than most on that subject, but it's nice to have it explained by an expert, even one who gets it wrong sometimes too, isn't that right Andrzej ;)

I hope to find one of these this coming year and send it off to you for ID if you want it Andrzej?

Was hoping it might be Scoliocentra collini which is on my list but haven't managed to find yet. :|

Edited by Roger Thomason on 13-03-2020 23:31

Posted by Andrzej on 16-03-2020 20:25
#8

In my opinion it is Scoliocentra dupliciseta (Strobl)

Posted by Roger Thomason on 17-03-2020 19:51
#9

Thanks for that Andrzej, seems it's as rare as hen's teeth in the UK, or toilet paper in the supermarkets, or brains between Trump's ears ;)