Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Helina ?
Posted by Pierre55 on 23-10-2007 19:10
#1
Can't do the difference between Helina and Phaonia...:(
But if I have to choose, it would be Helina.
Right ?
Thanks in advance :)
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 23-10-2007 19:16
#2
Phaonia sp. ..
Posted by Susan R Walter on 23-10-2007 19:16
#3
Don't think so. I think with that orange scutellum it's more likely to be Phaonia, but there are a couple of other Muscidae genera it could be too.
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 23-10-2007 19:17
#4
another telepathy! :) we must open a thread for telepathic cases. :)
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 23-10-2007 20:26
#5
I would have said
Mydaea corni...
Posted by Susan R Walter on 23-10-2007 21:14
#6
Stephane
Yes, I was thinking M
ydaea as a possibility.
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 23-10-2007 21:25
#7
I'm still beginner in Muscidae, it's just my favourite family of the moment, so a confirmation would have been welcome ;)
Posted by Susan R Walter on 23-10-2007 22:06
#8
Sorry Stephane - don't know enough myself to confirm ;) but it was actually the first thing that popped into my mind when I saw the picture, and that can be a good sign, if a bit jizzy for some :p
Posted by Susan R Walter on 24-10-2007 12:48
#9
I think we need Uncle Jere to pronounce on this one please :)
Posted by Pierre55 on 26-10-2007 19:12
#10
Anyone to confirm ? :)
Posted by Xespok on 26-10-2007 21:07
#11
It certainly is very similar to M. corni. But for some strange reason I would still hesitate to name this a Mydaea. Somehow my feeling is that this fly belongs to Phaoniinae. Mydaea should have a shinier appearance.
Posted by Pierre55 on 26-10-2007 21:15
#12
If the count is correct, they are 3 people to name it Phaonia for 1 to Mydaea. Let's then go for Phaonia sp :)
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 28-10-2007 17:02
#13
If the count is correct, they are 3 people to name it Phaonia for 1 to Mydaea. Let's then go for Phaonia
It is the case when 1 more than 3 :o
We have 2 possibilities from 2 different subfamily Phaoniinae and Mydaeinae. Characters to separate this subfamilies are unvisible. But if Phaoniinae - than Ph.errans (5% Ph.valida), if Mydaeinae - M.corni. We can compare this two possible females. Scutellum of Ph.errans yellowish on tip and dusted on disk, disk of scutellum with stronger setae, abdomen rather greyish than yellowish dusted.
So, female of
Mydaea corni.
Nikita
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 28-10-2007 23:07
#14
Many thanks for the confirmation Nikita. ;)
Posted by Pierre55 on 02-11-2007 17:41
#15
Also my thanks Nikita for the ID :)
And congratulations to Stephane who was alone against the rest of the world...:D