Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Mintho praceps?
Posted by zcuc on 20-10-2007 19:19
#1
Also called Musca compressa?
Israel today.
Found inside the house.
Edited by zcuc on 20-10-2007 19:24
Posted by ChrisR on 20-10-2007 19:31
#2
Not sure about either names you're using but it is certainly a
Mintho sp. Would be nice to be able to key it though because it doesn't look typical for
M.rufiventris - did you take a specimen?
Posted by zcuc on 21-10-2007 01:17
#3
No specimen and no good images either. but this is not the first time see those flies. I guess they are relative common in this area.
Posted by Zeegers on 21-10-2007 08:48
#4
Zcuc is correct
Theo
Posted by ChrisR on 21-10-2007 10:04
#5
Interesting species - would be nice to see it under the microscope for the differences. :)
Theo: are we likely to get this species in Central Europe now or is it mainly Middle Eastern or Asian?
Posted by Zeegers on 22-10-2007 20:59
#6
NO, its very southern, essential a north African / Middle east species, that is easily found (well, Chris, maybe not by you, given your Mintho-score) on the Canary Isles, for instance. Can be found in Sicily, Crete, and undoubtedly also on the main land of Europe, but southern.
Theo
Posted by ChrisR on 22-10-2007 23:17
#7
The only specimen I have of
Mintho rufiventris came from a window in the south of France ... I am destined to be a
Mintho-expert in photos only ;)
Posted by zcuc on 25-10-2007 08:20
#8
I had submited this Tachinidae to the gallery as Mintho praceps, Fabricius, 1787 and now I can see it's name changed to Mintho praeceps, Scopoli, 1763
Which name is currect?
Edited by zcuc on 25-10-2007 08:20
Posted by Paul Beuk on 25-10-2007 09:12
#9
The name in the Gallery.
Posted by zcuc on 25-10-2007 23:54
#10
How is it possible to tell between M.praceps and M.praeceps?
Posted by ChrisR on 26-10-2007 00:12
#11
I don't have a checklist of names that cover your part of the world but they seem just to be synonyms for the same fly. In general ICZN takes the oldest name for the same species so "
praeceps Scopoli, 1763" takes precidence over "
praceps Fabricius, 1787". :)
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 26-10-2007 00:16
#12
ICZN - International Code Zoological Nomenclature :D -- site here >>
http://www.iczn.o.../index.jsp :D Good readings. :D
If you have insomnias, this is a good book. :)
No. The manual is really interesting! :)
Posted by ChrisR on 26-10-2007 01:10
#14
Well, assuming they do actually refer to the same thing then I'd say
praeceps should be the valid name and
praceps should be the synonym ... but lets wait for Theo :)
Posted by Zeegers on 26-10-2007 07:47
#15
I have never heard of praceps, other then in the link above. It must be a typo of that website. If possibile, please report it as such.
Theo