Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Mycetophilidae, Epicypta ? => Epicypta aterrima
Posted by evdb on 24-11-2019 16:32
#1
Hello,
I post for a friend from S-E of France.
Pictured between nov. 12th and 22th 2019.
It looks like
Epicypta and wing venation remembers
E. limnophila
Does it match ?
Specimen available if wanted.
Thanks for help.
Pierre Gros : France : Cagnes-sur-Mer : 06800 : 12/11/2019
Altitude : 30 m - Taille : 6,7 x 4,0 mm & 5,9 x 3,55 mm
Réf. : 243309
Pierre Gros : France : Cagnes-sur-Mer : 06800 : 22/11/2019
Altitude : 30 m - Taille : 6,7 x 4,0 mm (cocon A) & 5,9 x 3,55 mm, cocon b
Réf. : 243831
Pierre Gros : France : Cagnes-sur-Mer : 06800 : 22/11/2019
Altitude : 30 m - Taille : 3,9 mm (Lc) & 3,05 mm (La)
Réf. : 243832
Pierre Gros : France : Cagnes-sur-Mer : 06800 : 22/11/2019
Altitude : 30 m - Taille : 3,9 mm (Lc) & 3,05 mm (La)
Réf. : 243833
Pierre Gros : France : Cagnes-sur-Mer : 06800 : 22/11/2019
Altitude : 30 m - Taille : 3,8 mm (Lc) & 3,15 mm (La)
Réf. : 243834
Pierre Gros : France : Cagnes-sur-Mer : 06800 : 26/11/2019
Altitude : 30 m - Taille : 3,8 mm (Lc) & 3,15 mm (La)
Réf. : 244066
Edited by evdb on 19-12-2019 19:25
Posted by evdb on 28-11-2019 17:17
#2
Nobody ?
Posted by Paul Beuk on 29-11-2019 09:51
#3
Yes,
Epicypta. Microscopic examination necessary, often male genitalia, too, for species ID.
Posted by evdb on 29-11-2019 10:02
#4
Thanks Paul, I ask to Pierre Gros to send you the specimen.
Edit. It looks ♀, do you confirm ? and tell me if it will be useful to send it to you ?
Edited by evdb on 29-11-2019 11:10
Posted by Paul Beuk on 29-11-2019 12:19
#5
Yes, it is a female. One of the couplets in the key allows for ID-ing both males and females. The character that determines whether this species falls in this couplet or the opther (where genitalia are required for species ID) is the number of small setae present on one of the wing veins. If I have the specimen, I can either ID the species or at least narrow it down to a few.
Posted by evdb on 29-11-2019 12:27
#6
OK Paul, I relay to P. Gros.
Posted by evdb on 09-12-2019 16:50
#7
Paul, did you receive the specimen sent on nov. 30 th. ?
Posted by Paul Beuk on 09-12-2019 16:51
#8
Yes, it will be under my microscope tomorrow. :)
Posted by evdb on 09-12-2019 16:53
#9
Fine !
Posted by evdb on 17-12-2019 18:06
#10
Still under the microscope :)
Posted by Paul Beuk on 17-12-2019 20:57
#11
Sorry, I identified them but was not at the computer at the time and forgot to reply.
Sceptonia aterrima it is. Two specimens, one of them a male, so that made ID-ing them not too complicated after all.
Posted by evdb on 17-12-2019 22:54
#12
No problem Paul but you agreed with
Epicypta and FE does not know
Sceptonia aterrima.
I suppose you meen
Epicypta aterrima (Zetterstedt, 1852) ?
Edited by evdb on 17-12-2019 23:07
Posted by Paul Beuk on 18-12-2019 09:32
#13
Sorry, slip of the mind.
Epicypta aterrima it is.
Posted by evdb on 18-12-2019 09:35
#14
Many thanks Paul, from both of us
Posted by evdb on 18-12-2019 10:07
#15
A last question : where is the male on pictures ?
Posted by Paul Beuk on 18-12-2019 10:53
#16
Well, you judge for yourself. Not easy on the pictures, but attached a photo of the two sp[ecimens. Male on the left, female on the right.
Posted by evdb on 18-12-2019 11:02
#17
Thank you very much Paul ; nice picture !