Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Muscid at light in garden (15.11.19). Or Anthomyiid? --> Muscidae

Posted by Juergen Peters on 16-11-2019 21:56
#1

Hello,

this 5.5 mm fly visited the light in our garden last night at 3.5 °C (northwest Germany). Maybe a Hebecnema?


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Edited by Juergen Peters on 19-02-2020 04:29

Posted by Juergen Peters on 19-11-2019 04:43
#2

Up...

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 20-11-2019 00:01
#3

not Hebecnema

Edited by Nikita Vikhrev on 20-11-2019 00:05

Posted by Juergen Peters on 20-11-2019 19:30
#4

Hello Nikita,

Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
not Hebecnema


thank you! Makes it even more interesting. What could it be...?

Posted by Juergen Peters on 18-02-2020 23:08
#5

Juergen Peters wrote:
What could it be...?


Perhaps Anthomyiidae?

Posted by John Carr on 19-02-2020 02:19
#6

Hind tibia has too few bristles for Anthomyiidae.

Posted by Juergen Peters on 19-02-2020 04:27
#7

John Carr wrote:
Hind tibia has too few bristles for Anthomyiidae.


Thanks John! Then it has to remain Muscidae indet.

Posted by johnes81 on 19-02-2020 12:52
#8

Dear Nikita,

why not a female Hebecnema nigricolor?

I can't think of many Muscidae with such a small anterior spiracle. The spiracle doesn't fit with most genera of Muscidae. The palpi appear to be dark brown. Mid and hind femora yellow. I can't see Helina here so what else would it be? edit: plus the wing veins are brownish-yellow.

edit: I've tried to key it again and the only other competitor is Mydaea electa. I remember that Mydaea has a yellowish wing base.

Best Wishes,
John

Edited by johnes81 on 19-02-2020 13:37