Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tachinidae male (Bel) ?--> Cleonice callida male
Posted by Christine Devillers on 19-12-2018 23:16
#1
Hello,
An idea for this male with hairy eyes ?
Belgium, Sourbrodt, 2018-05-08.
Thanks
Christine
Edited by Christine Devillers on 21-12-2018 14:19
Posted by Christine Devillers on 19-12-2018 23:16
#2
pic 2
Posted by Christine Devillers on 19-12-2018 23:17
#3
pic 3
Posted by Christine Devillers on 19-12-2018 23:17
#4
pic 4
Posted by Zeegers on 20-12-2018 10:36
#5
This one puzzles me. First impression is Blepharomyia pagana, but the dark hiindmargins on tergites are lacking. These are lacking in B. angustifrons, which has a much narrower frons.....
Theo
Posted by Christine Devillers on 20-12-2018 13:38
#6
Thank you theo, I'd never seen
Blepharomyia.
On this post
https://diptera.i...pid=131087 the dark hindmargins are more or less visible according to the angle of view
(less visible on the photo 1 on dorsal vue than on photo 3 and 4).
Don't you think it could be the same on my pictures: little or not visible on photos 1 and 2 in dorsal view, and more visible on photos 3 and 4 (maybe because I've taken the photos with flash) ?
Christine
Posted by John Carr on 20-12-2018 14:10
#7
Zeegers wrote:
This one puzzles me. First impression is Blepharomyia pagana, but the dark hiindmargins on tergites are lacking. These are lacking in B. angustifrons, which has a much narrower frons.....
Theo
Are the scutellar bristles right for
Blepharomyia? The more common arrangement in Dexiinae is 3 pairs with apicals long and crossed.
Posted by Zeegers on 20-12-2018 21:11
#8
I’m struggling to see the correct configuration of the scutellars. Somgood question.
Theo
Posted by Zeegers on 20-12-2018 21:15
#9
So, apical scutellar bristles are lacking ??
That would suggest Pelatachina tibialis.
Theo
Posted by John Carr on 20-12-2018 21:18
#10
I see four pairs of strong scutellars, all divergent. Also, T1+2 with hardly any excavation and possibly with median discals.
Posted by Christine Devillers on 21-12-2018 10:57
#11
Thanks Theo and John, and why not a male of
Cleonice callida ?
It looks like this one
https://diptera.i...d_id=85479 and I've seen some
Chrysomela populi at the same place.
Christine
Posted by Zeegers on 21-12-2018 11:09
#12
This crossed my mind several times. and it makes total sense, if the crossed apical scutellars are really lacking ! I totally misjudged this, apparently, I thought I saw small crossed apicals.
Pretty rare species !
Theo
Posted by Christine Devillers on 21-12-2018 12:39
#13
Thanks Theo,
I don’t see crossed apical scutellars. Only strong apical divergent, and also strong sub-apical, lateral and basal scutellars.
Here are some crops of the scutellar bristles. Are the anotations correct ?
Christine
Posted by Zeegers on 21-12-2018 13:26
#14
Cleonice caloida it is !
Theo
Posted by Zeegers on 21-12-2018 13:26
#15
Cleonice callida it is Theo
Edited by Zeegers on 21-12-2018 13:27
Posted by Christine Devillers on 21-12-2018 14:21
#16
Thanks Theo
Christine