Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Heleomyzidae, Suillia affinis from Romania

Posted by cosmln on 13-09-2007 10:21
#1

Hi,

yesterday in the field.
not a good day but with couple good photos.

i think this is a Suillia (7mm fly). founded staying on vegetation.
habitat: a valley, beech (Fagus) forest, around 600m altitude.

some (2) photos in nature, and 2 of mounted specimen.

cosmln

Edited by cosmln on 13-09-2007 23:41

Posted by cosmln on 13-09-2007 10:24
#2

second one

Posted by cosmln on 13-09-2007 10:25
#3

third (mounted): wing
... forget to put the attach

Edited by cosmln on 13-09-2007 10:27

Posted by cosmln on 13-09-2007 10:28
#4

last one (mounted)

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 13-09-2007 12:07
#5

I think it is Suillia affinis
Nikita

Posted by Andrzej on 13-09-2007 15:22
#6

Please check the haed's supracervical setulae near neck. If black so S. umbratica , if yellowish so S. affinis :).
Andrzej

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 13-09-2007 16:43
#7

Again, there isn't S.umbratica in Gorodkov's key. I reexamened specimens of S.affinis from Moscow and Kursk reg. I have. All have yellow supracervical setulae near neck. But should I add to couplet with S.affinis
head's supracervical setulae near neck black S. umbratica
?
Nikita

Posted by Andrzej on 13-09-2007 17:39
#8

of course, !

Andrzej :p

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 13-09-2007 18:59
#9

My dream, Andrzej, is:
you will write new key for European Suillia!
Nikita

Edited by Nikita Vikhrev on 13-09-2007 19:35

Posted by Andrzej on 13-09-2007 19:20
#10

Yes !,
I do, sir :0
Andrzej

Posted by cosmln on 13-09-2007 19:26
#11

Andrzej wrote:
Please check the haed's supracervical setulae near neck. If black so S. umbratica , if yellowish so S. affinis :).
Andrzej


i have just look thru the microscope... from what i can see all is black there. just taken also two photos thru the oculars (dorsal view and latero-dorsal view)... maybe i don't look where needed.

from what i see is S.umbratica (from what is writen in the quote).

thanks,
cosmln

Posted by Andrzej on 13-09-2007 19:32
#12

So , it is S. affinis :o
Andrzej

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 13-09-2007 19:36
#13

Cosmin, as far as I understand, Andrzej means this hairs

Posted by cosmln on 13-09-2007 19:43
#14

Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
Cosmin, as far as I understand, Andrzej means this hairs


Thanks Andrzej and Nikita,

sorry for not knowing where exactly to look. but learned now.
yes they are yellow, but when i have seen them they where so small that even i was not sure if that are hairs :)

thanks a lot,
cosmln