Thread subject: Diptera.info :: 3mm Braconidae? -> Braconinae Sp. ?

Posted by Ray Perry on 05-10-2017 21:09
#1

Can somebody please ID this or at least confirm that it is Braconidae.
body 3-4mm, horn 2-3mm
feeding on yarrow blossom. 15.50pm, 12th Sept. 2017, Flensburg, Germany.

More detail might be seen on the video:-
https://www.youtu...1wGjp7Cc80

(I removed Siricidae from the subject request after Jürgen pointed out that it's too small to be one.)

Edited by Ray Perry on 26-10-2021 15:37

Posted by Ray Perry on 05-10-2017 21:15
#2

from above

Posted by Ray Perry on 05-10-2017 21:17
#3

venation

Posted by Ray Perry on 05-10-2017 21:18
#4

long antennae.

Posted by Tony Irwin on 05-10-2017 21:23
#5

Not Siricidae - I'd say Braconidae

Posted by Ray Perry on 05-10-2017 21:26
#6

Thanks Tony, I was wondering about that possibility and that's why I showed the image with the waist.
Ray

Posted by Juergen Peters on 06-10-2017 06:35
#7

Hello Ray,

Ray Perry wrote:
I was wondering about that possibility


Siricidae are large to very large wasps. Urocera gigas, the largest Hymenoptera of central Europe, belongs to the Siricidae. You won't find a Siricid with a length of 3-4 mm, more likey 30-40 mm. ;)

Posted by Ray Perry on 06-10-2017 12:54
#8

Thanks Jürgen,
So would you also guess at Braconidae? Any suggestion as to the Subfamily?
Warm Regards
Ray

Posted by Ray Perry on 06-10-2017 23:25
#9

Could this be Atanycolus Sp. ?

Posted by Juergen Peters on 07-10-2017 05:21
#10

Ray Perry wrote:
Could this be Atanycolus Sp. ?


Looks more like Bracon sp..

Posted by Ray Perry on 07-10-2017 09:43
#11

Thanks Jürgen

Yes, I thinks that's it - a great help:) it matches other images of Bracon Sp. on the internet.

Below is a similar looking male of what I think is also Bracon Sp.
On broccoli flower buds in my garden.
15.47pm, 21st Sept. 2017. Flensburg, Germany.

You can see he has no ovipositor when he goes into flight at the end of this video:-
https://www.youtu...l6QZ2eokjo

Best Regards
Ray