Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Muscidae? = Fannia cf pallitibia
Posted by johnes81 on 05-10-2017 17:40
#1
Berlin - September - 5 mm
very pretty fly but I cannot find a match. The fly looks dark/black but lighting shows a gray/grey dusting on the thorax and humeral callus. The abdomen looks dark but lighting shows a pale brown color and a spot. very strange.
Thank You for your Time and Effort.
Edited by johnes81 on 05-10-2017 18:01
Posted by johnes81 on 05-10-2017 17:41
#2
photo number 2
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 05-10-2017 17:55
#3
The Sc vein is straight and diverging from R1 close to their bases --> Fanniidae.
Then, with these yallow tibias,
Fannia pallitibia most likely (a commun autumn
Fannia species).
Posted by johnes81 on 05-10-2017 18:01
#4
That was a fast response. I didn't think anyone would respond until tomorrow. Maybe when you have time, you will glance at my
Helina and
Coenosia posts.
I wouldn't have guessed
Fannia. I only have experience with
Fannia canicularis. I am upset with myself for not identifying a family here. I haven't dissected it yet. Fortunately, a nice man sent me a copy of his pdf keys for
Fanniidae. I will start with
Fannia pallitibia.
Thank You very much Stephane! You are
Wonderful! :)
Edited by johnes81 on 05-10-2017 18:49
Posted by johnes81 on 05-10-2017 18:53
#5
I see your photos of
Fannia pallitibia in the gallery :)
I will dissect this one tomorrow, then key it out. I will add photos to the gallery for you if you can verify the species. I'll also post genitalia for you.
I hope that you have a Wonderful Evening.
Posted by johnes81 on 06-10-2017 17:52
#6
Hello Stephane, I've sent a pm to you.
Meantime, I conclude that this species must be
Fannia pallitibia. I admit that the pdf keys that I have are for males only. This is a female. But I think that the only similar species (with yellow tibiae) is
Fannia pruinosa. From what I understand,
F. pruinosa has setose parafacials. If so, then I do not see hairs on the parafacials. Further, the thorax and abdomen look black with gray dusting but not what I would describe to be
pruinose.
I admit that I struggle dissecting ovipositors. My tools are too large. The only only scissors smaller than my micro scissors cost 400 euro in Germany. I don't care to import from North America, so I suppose I will have to visit a CNC shop for a custom design. :)
I will post the ovipositor here with a few photos illustrating the aforementioned features. If you can confirm
Fannia pallitibia, then I will add photos to the gallery.
Posted by johnes81 on 06-10-2017 17:52
#7
abdomen is dark/black.
Posted by johnes81 on 06-10-2017 17:53
#8
parafacials
Posted by johnes81 on 06-10-2017 17:53
#9
ovipositor
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 07-10-2017 09:07
#10
...and female of pruinosa should have abdomen with yellow corners at base. So I'm confident with
Fannia pallitibia.