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Posted by johnes81 on 27-08-2017 22:26

Berlin - mid August - dslr macro

I have no experience with Anthomyiidae. I have no keys yet. I have not read about them very much. I think that this species looks alot like Anthomyia liturata but I haven't keyed it.

I have genitalia, so a species level should be no problem for a specialist.

Thank You very much for your Time and Effort.

edit: changed image to show mid tibia and hind tibia. I think that liturata is supposed to have 2 ad mid tibia, so this may not be liturata or Anthomyia.

Edited by johnes81 on 28-08-2017 10:57

Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 28-08-2017 10:37

#14

I agree with your last statement: it is not Anthomyia. The easy way to separate the non-spotted/banded Anthomyia is because in Europe (at least) they have infuscated cross-veins.

I know too little of Anthomyiidae (one of my Nemesis families) but I am positive it is not Anthomyia. Not much but it is something to continue searching...

Posted by johnes81 on 28-08-2017 10:53

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Good morning, Piluca. I just woke up an hour ago and I decided to look more at Anthomyia liturata. I saw some photos and immediately noticed the infuscation at the cross-vein. I also saw a post here about 2ad. I feel stupid now :o

I have no idea what it is. My time is limited, so I hope that someone can recognize it. I have to meet a species in a family before I can begin to separate the families. I am a bit of a visual learner. Once I can get an id for this, I can begin to understand the family and how to recognize it.

I must log off now. I have alot of work to do today. I'll be back later. Thanks for the note, Piluca.

I wish for all a Pleasant Day.

Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 28-08-2017 11:34

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Please, don't feel stupid! :( Nobody is born already knowing. All this is part of the process of learning. Even the experts were amateurs some time in their lives ;)

If you are new at Anthomyiidae and need to learn the basics, this pdf should be of great help. I was the biggest of 'Dummies' ;) when I did read it for the first time, and it helped me a lot. It is humorous and very serious, didactic and scientific, all at the same time :)

http://www.dipter...ummies.pdf

Pity it is in Dutch but surely you will have less problems to read it than me ;) Most likely there is a lot in it you already know but you should find simple and direct information about the important features to pay attention to in the different genera.

It was written by Johanna van Erkelens. She and Michael Ackland are the people that know more of Anthomyiidae in this forum. Keep 'Unknown Anthomyiidae, genitalia included' in the title of this thread. It will drive their attention when they enter (which unfortunately is not very often) and look for Anthomyiidae threads. Other people might be able to help too :)

Don't work too hard and enjoy your fly time when you can :)

Posted by johnes81 on 28-08-2017 15:50

#17

Thank You very much Piluca :) the pdf looks very nice. I will definitely read it and memorize it. I really appreciate the help. You are very knowledgeable Piluca.

regarding Dutch, I taught myself to read Dutch many years ago. Speaking Dutch is a bit difficult but reading it is very easy. I have a copy of van Dale software for reference. I actually like the Dutch language.

I just got home, so I'm going to make some coffee. I have an interesting email to read about a Pollenia species...

I wish you a Wonderful Day :)

Posted by johnes81 on 31-08-2017 22:46

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Thank You Johanna :) I am sorry for the late reply. I have been very busy. My Wife and I have discovered a first record for Germany from Berlin. We are happy. Anyway, we've been busy. I truly appreciate your expertise. Thank You very, very much. And Thank You Piluca. I wish for both of you to have a Wonderful Day :)