Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Nephrotoma ferruginea - Tipula - Spain

Posted by hedy2411 on 01-04-2017 16:36
#1

Is it possible to name this fly..?
Found 11-3-2017 in Valencia, Spain

Edited by hedy2411 on 02-04-2017 13:03

Posted by hedy2411 on 01-04-2017 16:36
#2

..and this one..

Posted by John Carr on 01-04-2017 19:29
#3

Should be Nephrotoma ferruginea, an American immigrant.

Posted by hedy2411 on 02-04-2017 12:58
#4

..and this one...

Posted by hedy2411 on 02-04-2017 12:59
#5

Thank you for your reaction John!
Regards,
Hedy

Posted by pjotr oosterbroek on 11-04-2017 19:36
#6

Dear All,
In spite of previous identifications, also by me, I have come to the conclusion that this is not Nephrotoma ferruginea but Nephrotoma suturalis wulpiana.
N. ferruginea and N. s. wulpiana are Nearctic species that recently have become known from the south of the Iberian Peninsula (Hancock et al., 2015b on N. ferruginea, and Hancock et al., 2016 on N. s. wulpiana; both papers available as PDF from the CCW (ccw.naturalis.nl)).
N. ferruginea is known from Spain and N. s. wulpiana from Portugal. This is the first record of the latter for Spain.
N. ferruginea has two small spots at the upper side of the lateral thorax (fig. 5 in Oosterbroek 1984, PDF also available). N. s. wulpiana only the upper one (as on the third photo on Diptera-info).
In N. s. wulpiana the posterior end of the mid-dorsal thoracic stripe is darkened and continued into the thoracic suture (as on the first two photos).
All the best,
Pjotr Oosterbroek

Posted by hedy2411 on 11-04-2017 21:50
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Thank you Pjotr for your explanation!

Regards,
Hedy