Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Anthomyiidae (2) 23 July 2016 Öland, SE Sweden
Posted by Johane on 14-12-2016 23:35
#1
Is it possible to identify?
Posted by Johane on 14-12-2016 23:36
#2
2nd
Posted by Johane on 14-12-2016 23:37
#3
mid leg
Posted by Johane on 14-12-2016 23:40
#4
mid leg
Posted by Johane on 14-12-2016 23:40
#5
hind leg
Posted by Johane on 14-12-2016 23:41
#6
hind leg
Posted by Johane on 14-12-2016 23:42
#7
dorsal view
Posted by javanerkelens on 15-12-2016 23:11
#8
With a row of pv setae on t3 it could indicate
Delia and with two strong ad setae on t2 it could be
Delia antiqua, but the prealar is too strong strong and almost at the same lenght as the posterior notopleural seta….and the strong curved spur on the foretibia also seems not present.
With such strong prealar it could be
A. liturata (2 ad on t2 + some pv on t3 and tergite VI black shining), but the crossveins seems not infuscated.
Maybe we have to look at
Botanophila and
B. striolata also has two strong ad on t2, some pv setae on t3 ( not as much as your photos show) and tergite VI black shining.
So…. maybe you can check for
B. striolata at first…?!
Johanna
Edited by javanerkelens on 15-12-2016 23:12
Posted by Johane on 20-12-2016 20:46
#9
Thank you Johanna! I think the description of
B. striolata on your website fits with my fly. Is this enough or is genitalia preparation necessary?
Posted by javanerkelens on 20-12-2016 21:35
#10
I presume you also compared the shape of the genitalia (V sternite and surstylus) in combination with the outer characters.
If you are convinced....you don't need to prepare the genitalia.
Have trust in yourself !!
Johanna :)
Posted by Johane on 25-12-2016 23:45
#11
Well, the problem is that the fly dried before I had pulled out its genitalia.
Posted by javanerkelens on 26-12-2016 12:54
#12
In dried species the genitalia can differ in shape comparing with fresh species, but I think
B. striolata could be indeed.
On the photo you can see on the end of the V sternite a strong curve and maybe you can recogize this under your microscope.
If this strong curve is not present, we have a problem, because than it is not
B. striolata. :)
Johanna
Posted by Johane on 27-12-2016 09:40
#13
I made some new pictures of the 5th sternite
Posted by Johane on 27-12-2016 09:41
#14
2nd
Posted by javanerkelens on 27-12-2016 19:24
#15
I am thinking of
B. brunneilinea.
The typical shape of the cercal plate and surstyli in B. brunneilinea I have drawn in red on your photo.
Could you confirm this shape…?!
Johanna
Posted by Johane on 28-12-2016 14:22
#16
Yes, brunneilinea looks good. Thank you so much for your help! :-)