Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Neoitamus cf. cyanurus NE Poland
Posted by affiniscyanoviridis on 02-11-2016 12:16
#1
Hi,
for me it looks like Neomochtherus but maybe it is not ... is it possible to ID?
31052016
Best regards
J
Edited by affiniscyanoviridis on 03-11-2016 08:31
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 02-11-2016 14:38
#2
A female
Neoitamus sp. Looks like
N. socius or
N. cyanurus to me. Knowing the species is rather hopeless from pictures as far as I know. The development of microtrichia on the basal radial cell needs to be seen to separate both species.
However, sometimes a well experienced eye might be able to see something helpful. Wait for Reinoud ;)
Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 02-11-2016 14:42
Posted by Zeegers on 02-11-2016 14:41
#3
Actually, it is not so hopeless. You can find very nice pictures of socius here
http://waarneming.nl/soort/photos/8202
To me, this looks more like cyanurus.
Theo
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 02-11-2016 14:51
#4
Well, Theo, it seems this really needs an expertise eye ;) Certainly, not mine (I still have never seen any of both species in real life) and I wouldn't risk species ID. I only know 'the theory' ;) My idea was that only the microtrichia were diagnostic for females. I truly should keep my mouth shut :S :D
Posted by affiniscyanoviridis on 03-11-2016 08:30
#5
Thank you both of you for the replies.
With my best regards
Joao
Posted by Quaedfliegh on 03-11-2016 14:20
#6
Piluca is a "wijsneus": ))))) Strictly she is right but a pretty reliable character is the colour of the metatarsi. In this case they seem totally black which would strongly suggest N. cyanurus.
Posted by affiniscyanoviridis on 04-11-2016 10:42
#7
Ok, thanks for the reply.
N. cf. cyanurus will continue to be :), if I collected it we will have a confirmation.
Best regards
Joao