Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Chironomidae ? - more ID possible?

Posted by kuv on 11-09-2016 21:26
#1

Northern Germany, Schleswig-Holstein, Schenefeld bei Hamburg, earthwall between street and field of a tree nursery (overgrown with big oaks and small bushes like hazel, maple, roses, sloes, brambles), under a leaf of hazel; Outsidephotos: kuv, 3rd of Juli 2016. Please help to get the ID.
Kuv

Posted by kuv on 11-09-2016 21:27
#2

2nd pic:

Posted by John Carr on 12-09-2016 01:11
#3

Tribe Pentaneurini. Females of this group are hard to identify.

Posted by kuv on 12-09-2016 10:47
#4

Thank you very much John.
About one hour later I found a male of Chironomidae at the same place:
I think this may be also one of the tribe Pentaneurini: Perhaps this is better to identify?
Greetings Kuv

Posted by kuv on 12-09-2016 10:47
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2nd pic of male: