Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tabanus sp.

Posted by Brian Stone on 17-07-2007 10:53
#1

Could anyone confirm the identity of this largish Tabanus. I was thinking autumnalis.

Location: Peterborough, UK
Date: 26 June2007
Habitat: scrub and trees on edge of grassy disused brickworks
Size: c.30mm long

Posted by Brian Stone on 17-07-2007 10:55
#2

Second shot

Posted by Brian Stone on 17-07-2007 10:55
#3

Finally head on.

Posted by Susan R Walter on 17-07-2007 12:54
#4

30mm is getting awfully big for T autumnalis I think. The biggest I have seen is c25mm. Also the base of the antennae seem quite pale, but it looks like the abdominal pattern is right, which I think is the most important character and there is no eye banding, so I think I would go for T autumnalis too.

Anyway, I am sure Theo will set us right if it is something else.

Posted by Brian Stone on 17-07-2007 14:56
#5

Thanks Susan. Worth noting my size estimate may be on the generous side. They look jolly large and it's hard to be objective on size.

Posted by caliprobola on 17-07-2007 15:02
#6

well, i heard of people estimating Volucella zonaria as a fly of minimum 5cm so yours isn't too bad.... ;)

Posted by Zeegers on 17-07-2007 18:28
#7

Right. It's Tabanus autumnalis. The third antennel segment is completely black, so I don't see a problem there. The second is not, but that's OK. Moreover, the abdominal pattern is unique (in itself a near unique feature in Tabanus).
Autumnalis is big, but it ends at 22 mm. Sudeticus gets 5 mm. bigger, which is even to the naked eye much bigger.
To see even bigger Tabanus, really 30 mm., go to the USA (T. americanus). Looks almost like a bird.


Theo

Posted by Brian Stone on 18-07-2007 11:56
#8

Thanks Theo. Shame my size estimate was so far off.

Posted by Zeegers on 18-07-2007 13:26
#9

NO shame, visual illusion I would call it.
The correction factor 2/3 is actually rather average.

Theo