Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tachinidae: Alophasia?????

Posted by Isidro on 19-06-2007 08:23
#1

Last Satudray at Sabi?anigo, Aragon, Spain (Pre-Pyrenees), in flowers of Angelica archangelica, in open shrubland dominated by Ligustrum vulgare, Genista scorpius and Linum narbonense, near a train line. The fly sizes 8-9 mm long.

img38.picoodle.com/img/img38/8/6/19/f_pequeo3m_b11df09.jpg
img517.imageshack.us/img517/5306/alophasia2eu8.jpg

can be identified?
Thanks. ;)

Posted by ChrisR on 19-06-2007 08:36
#2

Firstly, the top one is an asilid and the bottom one a phasiine tachinid - so we have 2 totally different families represented in these photos. Not sure about the bottom fly because I can't see the wing venation clearly enough but I would guess it is a female Ectophasia (maybe leucoptera?) - just a guess, going by the wing and body colour.

Posted by Isidro on 19-06-2007 10:13
#3

Ooooh, I mistaked with the picture!!!!!

The asilid is one that I've posted in the Asilidae Forum (but anybody knows it).

Now I will put the picture that I wanted to put here.

Posted by Isidro on 19-06-2007 10:14
#4

Here is it.

Sorry by the mistake :p

img36.picoodle.com/img/img36/8/6/19/f_Alophasia1m_0624d4d.jpg

Posted by ChrisR on 19-06-2007 10:51
#5

Hmm, that strange way vein-m meets the wing margin and bends back reminds me of something that Theo identified a few weeks ago - not Ectophasia. That time he said:
It's a male of Elomyia lateralis. Look in the first pic what happens with the apical crosvein, when approaching the wing margin: it turns back !
(I admit, difficult to see if you haven't seen it before)


See: http://www.dipter...&pid=30080

Edited by ChrisR on 19-06-2007 10:53

Posted by Isidro on 19-06-2007 13:12
#6

The few pictures of Elomyia lateralis that I've found in the net, are different in coloration and even in the form.

?Could be another genus?

We wait for Theo, then...

Posted by ChrisR on 19-06-2007 15:22
#7

I'd say that wing venation will be the same across all species within a genus - but it might be a different species or a different sex to the photos you saw :)

Posted by Isidro on 20-06-2007 14:24
#8

Oh, I don't saw the link and neither the last answer :o

Thenk you very, very much, it's identical!!! I let it as (very probable) Elomyia lateralis.