Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Sapromyza obesa? SW Sweden 16 Jul 2015 -> Sapromyzosoma quadricincta

Posted by Johane on 26-07-2015 17:18
#1

Is it correct?

Edited by Johane on 24-08-2015 15:39

Posted by Johane on 26-07-2015 17:18
#2

head lateral view

Posted by Johane on 26-07-2015 17:19
#3

wing

Posted by Johane on 26-07-2015 17:19
#4

head dorsal view

Posted by Johane on 26-07-2015 17:20
#5

abdomen

Edited by Johane on 26-07-2015 17:20

Posted by Johane on 26-07-2015 17:21
#6

thorax dorsal view

Posted by Johane on 26-07-2015 17:22
#7

yellow palpi

Posted by rvanderweele on 26-07-2015 18:31
#8

S. obesa has ac in 4 rows, while the specimen in your photos has ac in 6 rows.
At the moment I really cannot say much more. I was thinking for a while of S. halidayi, but I am not sure at all. Maybe Paul Beuk can help?

Posted by Johane on 27-07-2015 12:29
#9

Thanks Ruud! Is there any important feature that isn't visible in the photos?

Posted by rvanderweele on 27-07-2015 18:33
#10

Johane, I will be more than pleased to look at it. At the moment I am abroad. It is not easy here to check all the literature as my family expect me to enjoy the holiday with them and not just with 'stupid" flies.
I do not know S. obesa. I have the species mentioned in the literature. At the moment I am really unable to say anything. But maybe Paul can?

Posted by Johane on 28-07-2015 18:45
#11

I made some pictures of the genitalia. One of the parameres(?) has been broken off. I have no drawing to compare with, but maybe someone else has?

Posted by Johane on 28-07-2015 18:47
#12

2nd pic of genitalia

Posted by Johane on 28-07-2015 18:49
#13

right paramere

Posted by rvanderweele on 28-07-2015 19:17
#14

I begin to think it is S. amabilis, but as I am not that familiar with this species, nor with S. obesa.....

Yet the palpen on the photo are yellow!

I hope Mark Mitschell will pay diptera.info a visit soon.

Edited by rvanderweele on 28-07-2015 19:20

Posted by Johane on 21-08-2015 01:45
#15

I would appreciate help from more experts.
:o

Johan

Posted by Paul Beuk on 21-08-2015 13:52
#16

Any particular reason why it cannot be Sapromyzosoma quadricincta?

Posted by Johane on 21-08-2015 22:55
#17

I think I was unsure of the colour of the abdomen? Is it certainly Sapromyzosoma quadricincta?

Posted by Paul Beuk on 24-08-2015 14:30
#18

Ocellar setae are outside the ocellar triangle, four rows of acrostichals. That would lead to that species.

Posted by Johane on 24-08-2015 15:36
#19

Thank you very much Paul!

Posted by rvanderweele on 29-05-2018 14:32
#20

Why the heck did I ever think this is amabilis? Crazy. Of course it is S. quadricincta. Just look at those genitalia