Thread subject: Diptera.info :: fly with shiny dark pronotum > supposedly Cheilosia vernalis

Posted by Lennart Bendixen on 16-01-2015 01:16
#1

Hi,

is this fly identifiable? Or at least its family?

Thank you!

Greetings,

Lennart

2015-09-17, 3 p.m., Germany, Schleswig-Holstein, Mohrkirch, wild meadow

Edited by Lennart Bendixen on 21-01-2015 19:55

Posted by piros on 16-01-2015 03:46
#2

Looks like Cheilosia sp, (female) Syrphidae.
Best regards,
Henrik

Posted by Lennart Bendixen on 16-01-2015 09:01
#3

Hi Henrik,
oh yes, that's possible...thank you! I didn't even think of Syrphidae, but maybe because the venation is kind of hidden in this picture.
Maybe someone can put this thread into the Syrph subforum?
Kind regards,
Lennart

Edited by Lennart Bendixen on 18-01-2015 22:44

Posted by Lukasz Mielczarek on 18-01-2015 16:08
#4

Looks like Cheilosia vernalis.

Regards,
Lukasz

Posted by Lennart Bendixen on 18-01-2015 23:03
#5

Thank you, Lukasz! May I ask you what makes you see that? (I don't know a thing about Cheilosia except that they're hard to identify...)
Greetings,
Lennart

Posted by Lukasz Mielczarek on 21-01-2015 15:47
#6

Dear Lennart,
You are right that Cheilosia is very problematic genus in identification. In the end of summer and during autumn in Central Europe only few Cheilosia species have flight period. We can observe bare eyes species of pagana group (longula, scutellata, soror, pagana) and C. vernalis. I think it is female of C. vernalis because of hairy eyes, bristles on the scutellum and very dark hind tibia.

Regards,
Lukasz

Edited by Lukasz Mielczarek on 21-01-2015 15:47

Posted by Lennart Bendixen on 21-01-2015 19:59
#7

Hi Lukasz,
thank you very much for that detailed information! Makes your supposition quite plausible (and I learned something new again...).
Best wishes,
Lennart