Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Empididae - Clinoceridae - Clinocera stagnalis
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 22-05-2007 23:11
#1
Hi
* locality - Silgueiros - Viseu - PORTUGAL
* date - 2007.05.
* size - 3-4 mm (small fly) wings almost 2x the body's size
* habitat - near river
* substrate - ??
EDIT ---> Title changed from "Mystery fly.. another" to "Empididae - Clinocera sp." and finally to "Empididae - Clinoceridae - Clinocera stagnalis"
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 24-05-2007 00:29
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 22-05-2007 23:12
#2
other view. i have almost sure that this is a new family for me.
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 22-05-2007 23:13
#3
other...
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 22-05-2007 23:24
#4
Empididae, Clinocerinae...
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 22-05-2007 23:36
#5
empidid --- venation wing fits well, but strange.. long proboscis is absent. :S
(perhaps broken, but it is unusual because all empidids I caught never broke their proboscis. :S )
Posted by Paul Beuk on 23-05-2007 07:32
#6
Long proboscis (really long that is) is really only found in Empidinae (in Europe). Other subfamilies have shorter probosces, those in Clinocerinae possibly the shortest.
Posted by igor on 23-05-2007 09:05
#7
Hi Paul,
There are a few exceptions in Clinocerinae, e.g. Hypenella, but they are not from Europe.
All the best,
Igor:)
Posted by Paul Beuk on 23-05-2007 09:22
#8
Now you understand why I included the '(in Europe)'. :P
Posted by igor on 23-05-2007 09:36
#9
ok, ok:D:D:D
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 23-05-2007 12:18
#10
ok. :) And what about possible genus?
Posted by igor on 23-05-2007 12:48
#11
Sorry:)
Clinocera sp.
Posted by Sinclair on 23-05-2007 23:28
#12
This is Clinocera stagnalis.
It is holarctic in distribution, found in a variety of habitats and appears to have a wide temperature tollerance.
Brad Sinclair
Posted by Kahis on 23-05-2007 23:39
#13
Whoa, yet another guru has joined the fray. B) Welcome to the forum and thanks for the authoritative answer.
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 24-05-2007 00:28
#14
And this species is new for mainland Portugal. :) Thank you.
May I ask which are the definitive characters for C. staganalis that we can see in these photos? Thank you again.
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 24-05-2007 00:31