Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Asilidae from Zadar
Posted by Mollusca on 09-09-2014 15:59
#1
Another insect from Croatia, found in August:
Posted by jaho on 09-09-2014 19:04
#2
Unfortunately not all features are visible, but even so only black bristles on legs and characteristically cutted epandrium point to
Machimus gonastites.
Posted by Mollusca on 09-09-2014 21:40
#3
Thanks Jan :D
Posted by Mollusca on 09-09-2014 21:48
#4
Maybe this pic is better?
Edited by Mollusca on 09-09-2014 21:49
Posted by Quaedfliegh on 09-09-2014 23:59
#5
Being a bit opinionated....In Engel it keys out to Machimus fimbriatus. Description fits pretty good. Personally i think the epandrium is too pointy and curved. Whatever your conclusion keep a cf.
Hypopygium M. gonatistes: http://www.robberflies.info/keyger/images/800/Asilinae/Machimus/gonatistes_m1_11_COGG.jpg
Posted by jaho on 10-09-2014 12:19
#6
I took
M. fimbriatus into consideration, but with all the respect I still think the epandrium does not fit. Adding cf. is always safer and in this case it would be justified.
Staying on the subject of
Machimus species and hypopygiums, what do you think of this one Reinoud? http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=2&thread_id=56809
Posted by Quaedfliegh on 10-09-2014 17:39
#7
: ) A strange thing that. In this case it proves you can't id an animal based on opinion and pictures that do not show all needed characters. As in humans there are always differences in individuals and even the epandria can look different. Certainly after mating.
On your Greek asilid: There seems to be trouble in the land of the black legged Machimus species.
Different keys are unclear and sometimes contradictory.
I guess this is either
M. setibarbus, M cyanopus or
M. modestus. We can't even rule
M. caliginosus out for the type is a female only.
You will have to study the gonapods to id with more certainty. Check, if possible Theodor '76 and the website of Danny Wolff on the discussion on
Machimus setibarbus, intermedius, cyanopus and
caliginosus.
Posted by jaho on 10-09-2014 19:50
#8
Hmm...
Asilidae copulatory apparatus is made of chitin whereas human's not... ;)
I agree with being confused with entirely black legged
Machimus species, anyways thanks for your attention.
Posted by Quaedfliegh on 11-09-2014 03:22
#9
You are correct of course, but they are not made in Japanese or German factories : ). I could rant on about the seperate parts of which they consist or about the larval stadia or the moment they emerge from their pupae but i will not : )