Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Chrysotoxum?
Posted by kobra on 09-08-2014 09:25
#1
I would like to know which species this is.
It concerns this sighting:
http://observado....w/87031917
identification uncertain
Chrysotoxum octomaculatum observed at 2014-07-21 BRD - Haßberge (Landkreis)
thanks in advance
Koenraad
Posted by ValerioW on 09-08-2014 11:26
#2
Right ID! It's a male
C. octomaculatum
Posted by kobra on 10-08-2014 09:12
#3
Thank you for the confirmation, Valerio.
Ciao,
Koenraad
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 10-08-2014 09:26
#4
Sorry but I disagree, this is not
C. octomaculatum : the 3rd antennal segment is well too long and the rim of tergites 3 & 4 is not yellow at level of black front bands. Should be like in the last pictures of this page :
http://cyrille.du...illus.html
Posted by Mark van Veen on 11-08-2014 07:49
#5
C. cautum, I would say.
Posted by kobra on 11-08-2014 09:36
#6
Thank you for all the info.
OK, no
C. octomaculatum.
So maybe
C. cautum or
fasciolatum?
This may stay uncertain with these pictures, I guess.
Regards,
Koenraad
Posted by ValerioW on 11-08-2014 18:34
#7
Stephane Lebrun wrote:
Sorry but I disagree, this is not
C. octomaculatum : the 3rd antennal segment is well too long and the rim of tergites 3 & 4 is not yellow at level of black front bands. Should be like in the last pictures of this page :
http://cyrille.du...illus.html
I enlarged the photo and I'm totally agree. 3rd antennomere is pretty long. I didn't check the photo for first steps in ID, assuming kobra did already, sorry.
Posted by ValerioW on 11-08-2014 18:41
#8
Mark van Veen wrote:
C. cautum, I would say.
Without considering wings,
cautum can be quite straight, flat abdomen fits. But wings are too much dark on the outer half of front margin. Eyes'pilosity can be a useful trait, but I cannot discriminate it with this resolution.
Posted by ValerioW on 11-08-2014 18:44
#9
kobra wrote:
Thank you for all the info.
OK, no C. octomaculatum.
So maybe C. cautum or fasciolatum?
This may stay uncertain with these pictures, I guess.
Regards,
Koenraad
Wing colours are
fascicolatum-type, and enlarging the head it appears (please, would you like to check and confirm?) that 3rd antennomere is longer than 1+2. So
cautum can be ruled out. I'd say
C. cf.
fascicolatum
Posted by kobra on 17-08-2014 10:36
#10
Hi again,
I have now cropped a picture of the head - I am not sure that it is clear now, since I am not a specialist, so maybe someone can confirm now?
Regards,
Koenraad