Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Ichneumonidae? Braconidae? with very long ovipositor
Posted by Isidro on 08-05-2007 16:28
#1
I don't know how it's said this word in English, excuse me.
Strange ichneumonid at Tauste, Aragon, Spain, february 2007. 4-5 cm, but the body sizes only about 2 cm.
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Thanks!
Edited by Isidro on 10-05-2007 09:29
Posted by cthirion on 09-05-2007 17:48
#2
Hello Isidro!
The photograph is remained in the box!
Posted by Isidro on 10-05-2007 00:50
#3
Oh, sorry!
I don't know what happened. Yesterdey I saw the pictures!
Try now!
Thanks! ;)
Posted by ChrisR on 10-05-2007 01:05
#4
My guess is family Braconidae but the photo is lacking detail and scale. Many pimpline ichneumonids have long ovipositors but I don't know any pimplines with darkened wings.
Posted by cthirion on 10-05-2007 08:41
#5
Braconidae for my!;)
Posted by Pierre-Nicolas Libert on 10-05-2007 08:47
#6
With the details visible on the photo it can also be a Ichneumonidae Cryptinae. Have a look at the petiole on the second photograph.
Posted by cthirion on 10-05-2007 11:53
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With share Parasilsila gladiator, I do not know a such long drill nor wings such sunk in this group Cryptinae!
Like Chris..... always!
One would need a detail of the wing!
Edited by cthirion on 10-05-2007 18:43
Posted by ChrisR on 10-05-2007 12:01
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I have seen tropical braconids like this (with incredibly long ovipositors) and in general I usually guess if an ichneumonoid has very darkened wings it is most likely to be a braconid. But like cthirion said, we need to see wing venation to be sure.
Posted by Isidro on 10-05-2007 15:15
#9
Thaks!
I don't have more photos. Sorry.
I don't find "Paralsilsila" in Google...
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 10-05-2007 21:08
#10
it seems really a braconid wasp.
Posted by cthirion on 10-05-2007 22:16
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Parasilsila gladiator=Stenarella domator now!;)