Thread subject: Diptera.info :: 1_Muscidae_ID? (Alliopsis sylvestris(female)

Posted by Mucha Fero on 02-05-2014 08:52
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Please identify Muscidae flies. Slovak Republic, Malá Fatra, approximately altitude cca 1100 m a. s. l. Thank you very much for your help. Best regards! Fote date: 01.05. 2014.

Edited by Mucha Fero on 03-05-2014 06:11

Posted by Mucha Fero on 02-05-2014 08:52
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[quote]Mucha Fero wrote:

Posted by Mucha Fero on 02-05-2014 08:53
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[quote]Mucha Fero wrote:

Posted by Mucha Fero on 02-05-2014 08:53
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[quote]Mucha Fero wrote:

Posted by John Carr on 02-05-2014 14:04
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Anthomyiidae. Alliopsis sylvestris species group female, but not sylvestris which has less widely separated eyes.

Posted by javanerkelens on 02-05-2014 19:44
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If the interfrontals are plased just below the ocelli ( I just can't see them on these photos, but it seems so) and with the fore tars on tibia 1 enlarged.....this could be Alliopsis denticauda.

I need a sharp photo from the head (front)...!

Johanna
(not recorded for the Czech Republic)

Edited by javanerkelens on 02-05-2014 19:46

Posted by Mucha Fero on 02-05-2014 23:10
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John, Johanna thank you very much.

Edited by Mucha Fero on 02-05-2014 23:11

Posted by javanerkelens on 02-05-2014 23:26
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Please.....Try to read my answer properly (or translate my tekst with a program on the internet) and take not just an answer for granted.
I have asked for an enlargement of the head, before I can be sure of my answer !!!

Johanna

Posted by John Carr on 02-05-2014 23:28
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javanerkelens wrote:
If the interfrontals are plased just below the ocelli ( I just can't see them on these photos, but it seems so) and with the fore tars on tibia 1 enlarged.....this could be Alliopsis denticauda.

I need a sharp photo from the head (front)...!

Johanna
(not recorded for the Czech Republic)


According to Griffiths denticauda is a gray species with tarsomeres 2-5 of uniform width. This belongs in his sylvestris superspecies with only tarsomeres 2-3 enlarged.

Posted by javanerkelens on 02-05-2014 23:36
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That is why I had my doubts...!!
I only have Hennig and Ackland for Alliopsis and not Griffiths to consult.
In Hennig only A. denticauda was mentioned with the enlarged tarsomeres, that is why I thought it could be A. denticauda.
So John, thank you for the information, and I am saving the money to buy more parts of Griffiths (or lend it from the library)!
Alliopsis sylvestris species group it is..!

Johanna

Edited by javanerkelens on 02-05-2014 23:39

Posted by John Carr on 02-05-2014 23:55
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Griffiths includes six species known from the Palaearctic:

A. silvestris. Eyes separated "by slightly more than width of ocellar tubercle", pulvilli of fore legs almost as long as fifth tarsomere.

A. teriolensis including borealis. Eyes more widely separated, at least in some populations.

A. lutebasicosta (Fan)
A. silvatica (Suwa)
A. maculifrons (Zetterstedt)
A. billbergi (Zetterstedt)

By range this should be teriolensis ("from Tyrol", I presume).

Griffiths' only female specimen was from Scandinavia, and the Alps population may differ. If you don't have Hennig's description I can copy Griffiths'.

Posted by Mucha Fero on 03-05-2014 06:10
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John, Johanna thank you very much.

Posted by javanerkelens on 03-05-2014 23:57
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John....I will send you tomorrow a PM !

Johanna