Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Muscidae or Athomyidae, I think
Posted by Isidro on 06-05-2007 12:27
#1
Four days ago in my garden, Zaragoza, Aragon, Spain.
6-7 mm without wings.
In sage leaves (Salvia officinalis).
Thanks ;)
Edited by Isidro on 06-05-2007 12:28
Posted by Isidro on 06-05-2007 20:45
#2
Is difficult, as I see...
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 06-05-2007 22:19
#3
Muscidae, I think.
Darkened crossveins - may be Lispocephala.
Posted by Isidro on 06-05-2007 23:39
#4
Thanks Nikita!
I need more opinions... ;)
Posted by Kahis on 07-05-2007 08:30
#5
Muscidae. Some important characters are not visible, but I think belongs to
Helina or
Spilogona.
Posted by Isidro on 07-05-2007 08:34
#6
Thanks Kahis!
At least the family is sure.
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 07-05-2007 20:10
#7
Kahis, am I wrong to think it cannot be Spilogona because Coenosiinae don't have prealar seta, and I can see a prealar on this fly ?
So it would remain Helina...
Regards
Posted by Kahis on 07-05-2007 20:31
#8
You're quite right, Stephane. Some
Spilogona have a small prealar, but not as big as on this fly.
Posted by Kahis on 08-05-2007 01:37
#9
By chance I found this fly (or a close relative at least) today. Although it is quite robust, it's clearly a female anthomyiid.
Posted by Isidro on 08-05-2007 08:40
#10
Well, now are you sure of the family? ;) All before indicates to be Muscidae...
But.... the genus?
Posted by Paul Beuk on 08-05-2007 08:52
#11
It looks as if the first anal vein reaches the wing margin and that would make it a true anthomyiid.
Posted by Kahis on 08-05-2007 10:18
#12
Paul Beuk wrote:
It looks as if the first anal vein reaches the wing margin and that would make it a true anthomyiid.
With hindsight that is obvious :)
Posted by Paul Beuk on 08-05-2007 10:48
#13
Kahis wrote:
Paul Beuk wrote:
It looks as if the first anal vein reaches the wing margin and that would make it a true anthomyiid.
With hindsight that is obvious :)
Hindsight? The picture was there all the time, so I would have said Anthomyiidae all the time...
Posted by Michael Ackland on 19-04-2008 13:06
#14
Anthomyia liturata RD female. Not all Anthomyia have black and white pattern on scutum. A. liturata has infuscated wing cross-veins, larvae breed in bird nests