Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Laphria empyrea and hecate

Posted by jaho on 23-01-2014 23:53
#1

Found this interesting fly in Greece, Peloponnese on 21.V.2009 near Karyes. This female's body length is 26 mm. It took me long to find out which species it represents. Thanks to Engel's 1930 publication, where the original Gerstaecker's description in latin is given, now I'm certain of my determination thus I'm showing a photo of Laphria empyrea and its biotope for the first time on the web.

Edited by Paul Beuk on 06-02-2018 12:09

Posted by jaho on 24-01-2014 00:06
#2

Biotope, goats everywhere...

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 24-01-2014 01:07
#3

Nice! In gallery please : )

Posted by jaho on 26-01-2014 22:45
#4

You're welcome :). I've submitted several Asilidae photos, but I guess they need a confirmation first to show up.

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 03-02-2018 18:19
#5

Today I received a very similar specimen from Crete, and this one keys straight out to Laphria hecate. In the original description of empyrea (which is rather short) one can read that the mystax is golden yellow. It also states that the species is very similar to L. flava. The description of Engel himself (he doubts if he has the right species in front of him) is more yellow in chaetotaxy. Did you also consider L. hecate? You can see the type of empyrea here: http://eos.naturkundemuseum-berlin.de/result?Family=Asilidae&Genus=Laphria&Subgenus=&Species=ephippium&InfraspecificEpithet=&AuthorYear=&DrawerCode=

Right top. Type of L. hecate is there too, but hard to see anything because the wings are closed on the abdomen.

Edited by Quaedfliegh on 05-02-2018 17:05

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 05-02-2018 17:08
#6

Lateral view for the postsutural hair.

Edited by Quaedfliegh on 05-02-2018 17:09

Posted by jaho on 06-02-2018 01:32
#7

It seems you are right, Reinnoud and we both have L. hecate. Thanks for attaching your specimen. I remember going through Engel's description over and over but how didn't I notice the "aureo-flavis" mystax, must have been tired... Back then I had no clue the collection in Berlin could be seen online which is so useful than just reading description. Thus, I would kindly ask for changing name in the gallery and the thread.

Posted by Paul Beuk on 06-02-2018 12:10
#8

Done. The thread title you could have changed by editing your first post in the thread but I took care of it. :)

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 06-02-2018 15:22
#9

:-)You are welcome Jaho and yes, the Berlin museum is perfect to get a very helpful first impression. Thank you Paul.