Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Stratiomyidae, which Stratiomys? => Stratyomis chamaeleon

Posted by dirk on 05-08-2013 21:09
#1

Hello forum,

Stratiomys from 10.07.2013 in Germany, South Bavaria, East-Allgäu, close to Neuschwanstein castle, ca. 850 m NN, (on wild carot – Daucus carota subsp. carota?) on a strip between a road and a meadow. Nearby forest. Length about 15 mm.

I tend to Stratyomis chamaeleon due to abdominal pattern. But I am not quite sure about it. Stratyomis potamida seems to be much more common and is S. chamaelon registered for Germany?

Looking forward to expert opinion.

Thanks in advance.

Dirk

Edited by dirk on 15-08-2013 09:46

Posted by dirk on 05-08-2013 21:11
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2nd picture:

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Posted by dirk on 05-08-2013 21:12
#3

3rd picture:

Edited by dirk on 05-08-2013 21:24

Posted by dirk on 14-08-2013 22:14
#4

Hello again,

I start to wonder whether this might rather be just another specimen of the recently newly-discovered Stratiomys noidea?

Your comment would be really appreciated!

Best regards
Dirk

Posted by rvanderweele on 14-08-2013 22:41
#5

As far as I can see it is S. chamaeleon

Posted by ChrisR on 14-08-2013 22:45
#6

In the UK I'd be tempted to say Stratiomys chamaeleon, from the yellow tibiae and wedge-shaped spots on the abdomen ... but you might have other species :)

Posted by rvanderweele on 14-08-2013 22:54
#7

No, Chris, I really think it is S. chamaeleon. The spots fit the description also the sternites

Posted by dirk on 14-08-2013 23:18
#8

Hi Ruud and Chris,

thanks to both of you for your opinion!

@ Chris:
No, I think it stands between Stratiomys chamaeleon and S. potamida. I first also considered S. concinna and S. cenisa for being candidates, just by generell appearance. They look very similar, but S. concinna has a dark red/reddish 3rd antennae segment (while this fly here has completely black ones) and S. cenisa is definately not known north of the alpes.

Regards
Dirk

Posted by rvanderweele on 15-08-2013 00:40
#9

No, the markings on the tergites of concinna and cenisa are different.